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    Devils_Lawyer's Avatar
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    Devils Lawyer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eissels View Post
    Oh yes, it's SO much work to stand around going "Any hunt LS?" in shout and waiting for one to invite you, then waiting around while other players use definitely-spreadsheet-and-not-a-third-party-tool to tell you where the hunt is.
    They arnt using third party tools if thats what your implying casuse they dont tell exacly when/where it will spawn.

    Simply put, they know the respawn time in hours for most of the marks so when said time reach its end the area which it spawns in becomes a POI (point of interest) and then the large mass goes to these areas looking for them and when they find them they call it out, once the mark is dead the sheet is updated with the new info so they can calculate the next time it spawns again.

    And for the record hunts are more social then dungeons cause atleast people actually use the chat feature.
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    Hiruke's Avatar
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    Aislin Delhir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eissels View Post
    And the people who think hunts are a social thing are kidding themselves. It's just 8 people waiting on 7 others to spam a coordinate.
    Just because you would like to believe everyone is lazy does not make it so. There will always be leeches in any situation, but in any Hunt group (that ever, you know, Hunts anything) there will be a large number of active folks looking around constantly for marks. The Bs respawn pretty often, so there's pretty much always something to find.


    Quote Originally Posted by Eissels View Post
    Oh yes, it's SO much work to stand around going "Any hunt LS?" in shout and waiting for one to invite you, then waiting around while other players use definitely-spreadsheet-and-not-a-third-party-tool to tell you where the hunt is.
    First off, the reason why these Hunt groups work is because they actively seek out marks. If everyone was as lazy as you suggest, the entire group would be sitting in town and nothing would ever be found. It's not just one or two people who are looking... It's MOST of the people.

    It may make you feel better to think there is some magic hack that allows people to peer into the future across space and time in order to see exactly when/where a mark is going to spawn, but there is no such philosopher's stone. The fact of the matter is that when 100+ people sweep a zone up and down, the mark WILL be found. Marks have spawn windows they can spawn in, so yes, people can track ToD and predict when a mark will next be "open", and thus know when to hunt in which area. Leveraging this knowledge with a large group of people able to look everywhere at once due to the fact that they are a large group of people makes it pretty easy for the large groups to find and kill everything.

    I imagine this is surely not what SE intended when they designed this system, but it's in no way cheating, nor is it lazy. It's lazy to call the people actively hunting lazy and/or cheaters because you have some kind of grudge against the system for not loading you up with seals for not doing anything at all.
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    How about, I don't know, for a party yourself?

    I think ingame help even tells you how to do it.

    *shocked*
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    DeceptionsWrath's Avatar
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    Anita Rathkamp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    How about, I don't know, for a party yourself?

    I think ingame help even tells you how to do it.

    *shocked*
    Funny how every post you make just shows even more how rotten this community is. It's people like you why i avoid as much group content as possible when it comes to joining random parties. The hunt system has issues, you can't deny that.
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    Majidah's Avatar
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    Majidah Sihaam
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    Quote Originally Posted by reality_check View Post
    Please fix.

    May I suggest just anyone who lands a hit on the hunt can get full credit? It's just a zerg fest anyway.
    Solo players can't beat dungeons nor raids on their own. It's crazy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Nukocafe View Post
    Congratulations that's the most ignorant response in this whole thread!
    Sorry I can't "plan" when I'm not using the 3rd party cheating apps like the so called "planners" do.
    I'm sorry but the answer is ... plan better. I am in no hunting LS and I still managed to easily get enough for a mannequin for my house's yard in less than an afternoon.

    I just put a party finder up saying hunting, and it filled up super fast. Everyone started looking for the mobs and would call it out if they found one, we teleported there, etc. And we did it on prime time where a lot of the time people wouldn't even wait before pulling and it was a clusterfskk of players too.

    My friends tell me all the time if they run into a B rank and need help and most of the time they are alone by when I get there too.
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    Last edited by Majidah; 07-20-2014 at 12:56 AM.

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    Yurika Huin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    Solo players can't beat dungeons nor raids on their own. It's crazy!
    Dungeons are an organized space where you will que solo, be put into a group and guarantee to get your myth/soldiery/exp/possible item drops.
    Don't compare dungeons to the unorganized zerg fest that is the hunts.
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    Kyana Nekote
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    Solo players can't beat dungeons nor raids on their own. It's crazy!
    But the dungeon will always be there. It won't vanish if you don't get a party together in less than 60 seconds and enter it.


    I'm not happy with the hunt system either.
    So far, I've seen Naul once out of ~20 times and was able to get 1 hit in (not enough to finish the weekly it seems), and duoed the rank B in Central Shroud.

    What I like about the hunts is the idea of spawn conditions.
    I think it would be better if they changed A and B rank to actual group content for 4 and 8 players.
    You get the information about the area where the NM can be found and a random hint how to spawn it.
    Then your group has to figure out how to spawn it and beat the NM.
    Make locating and attracting the NM the main activity of hunts, and not waiting and zerging.
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    That's the mature Final Fantasy playerbase that was oh, so much better than ANY other game (to hear it told on the Alla forums).

    Not even close. Hunts have fostered the OPPOSITE of a positive community. The monsters are just too weak. They need to be like 100+ times harder than they are now to warrant the rewards they give and to give EVERYONE a chance to fight them.
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    "Join a party." is by far the worst answer to the issue. How am I suppose to join a party while I'm queued up for a dungeon I need for my Animus Book? I have a 15 to 30 min wait time that I would prefer to fill with mark hunting.
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    Kaiser Yonin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    "Join a party." is by far the worst answer to the issue. How am I suppose to join a party while I'm queued up for a dungeon I need for my Animus Book? I have a 15 to 30 min wait time that I would prefer to fill with mark hunting.
    Dat opportunity cost.
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