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    Nutz's Avatar
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    Monkey Nutz
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    I was unhappy with the cap initially as well, but seeing the system that they designed I don't feel that more than 2 or 3 classes capable of desynthing are needed. CUL aside, only the objects you can desynth are different, not so much the results. Sure there are primal weapons/ accessories to think about, but given the gil sink that desynthing is, I'm glad that my GSM can get most everything out of this system and perhaps I'll level BSM in desynthing as well. The only hurdle imposed by the restriction is that you can't desynth EVERY item you come across. You have to plan accordingly. This is most relevant with primal weapons, which I suppose is a huge sticking point for some, but I personally have little interest in that.
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    Meru Maru
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    It's just sort of irritating when you're lv80+ in a desynth skill, and levelling a second skill causes it to slowly drop 0.01 0.01 0.01... Not much, but post-lv70 desynthing skill is expensive.
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Yes you do lose points when leveling another desynth up. There is a RNG chance at losing points. It doesn't make any sense because they give you 300 points to work with. They should just offer a reset to certain crafts once you hit the 300 cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Yes you do lose points when leveling another desynth up. There is a RNG chance at losing points. It doesn't make any sense because they give you 300 points to work with. They should just offer a reset to certain crafts once you hit the 300 cap.
    I agree it makes no sense. I wonder if their intent was to prevent players from keeping level 100 on multiple classes. The way it stands if you get to 100 (which is ridiculous enough) doing any desynthing on another class could drop you to 99.99, which will give you the same success rate that you'd have at 99.00 next time you desynth with that class. Sure it can be made up with a single successful desynth, but you'll be missing 1.5% success rate on that desynth (and perhaps some hidden benefits).
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    Goji Degotye
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    The cap is stupid. I want to be able to do everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    The cap is stupid. I want to be able to do everything.
    But you can do everything. The points are plastic to whatever class you want to desyth on.


    Quote Originally Posted by HEC View Post
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    Now, were talking about theories vs. what can actually be done. The points pool is separate from the crafting exp and level pool.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    Let's not pretend you don't know what I mean. It's petty.
    The same can could be said about such an exaggerated statement, when you can do everything. It's not like the points are static, and once you make a decision, that's it. You've been given flexibility with this.

    With that said, I'm not against having the ability to cap everything at 100 (which I understand as your meaning); I just don't think it's necessary, which you or anyone is welcome to disagree with.
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    Last edited by ShinkuTachi; 07-20-2014 at 01:47 AM.

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    Goji Degotye
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinkuTachi View Post
    But you can do everything. The points are plastic to whatever class you want to desyth on.
    Let's not pretend you don't know what I mean. It's petty.
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    Yshelle Dawnholder
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    I have only started to dabble in desynthesys. I assume that people want to be able to desynth cloth, leather, metal items, ergo the need for more than 1 at max level. However, desynthesys is only good for going after the elusive Master Demimateria and some lesser grades for crafting some items.
    So, I have to ask, if the demimateria is the only thing one is going for, why not just level 1 job to 100, get the Master Demimateria required to get the tools and be done with it? There may be something I am missing, so please enlighten me.
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    I have no prayer for that...

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    M'ete'leskum B'leskum
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaaylryn View Post
    I have only started to dabble in desynthesys.---There may be something I am missing, so please enlighten me.
    You're correct that basic clear, field and battle demis could be obtained from any class (except CUL which produce only clear ones) and having only one or two maxed or at least leveled to high 90 will give you access to new recipies and tools however the main point of specific classes are unique items received from high level desynths like swimsuits from CUL and so on ...
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    Project Ziek
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    I do agree that the cap is stupid. However, I do believe it is probably just there for now, and will probably be patched out of the game at some point, if there's enough demand for it.
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