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    Player Edenlys's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydia13 View Post
    One simple nerf that will really help is remove healers ability to Cleric Stance during PvP.
    You're right, healers shouldn't have huge DPS, same for tanks, theirs jobs should be protect each other instead of dealing a lot of damage. Pvp is totally unbalance atm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edenlys View Post
    You're right, healers shouldn't have huge DPS, same for tanks, theirs jobs should be protect each other instead of dealing a lot of damage. Pvp is totally unbalance atm.
    It's either that, or give DPS access to more defensive cooldowns.
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    Rhas Itiron
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edenlys View Post
    You're right, healers shouldn't have huge DPS, same for tanks, theirs jobs should be protect each other instead of dealing a lot of damage. Pvp is totally unbalance atm.
    It is not totally unbalanced. Just your opinion of it.

    I can 1v1 any class with my chosen profession BLM including whm and scholars (though scholar can be a pain if you don't sleep their pet). I took a PLD down solo from full health in 6 seconds flat a couple days ago (using all my CD as well, lowering magic resist, raging strikes, fire 3 proc, swiftcast flare) then got slaughtered by someone else a few seconds later

    Perhaps you either need a patter party make up or just need to learn how to pvp better 1v1. I win some I lose some, its not a guarantee win/loss ever single time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhas View Post
    It is not totally unbalanced. Just your opinion of it.

    I can 1v1 any class with my chosen profession BLM including whm and scholars (though scholar can be a pain if you don't sleep their pet). I took a PLD down solo from full health in 6 seconds flat a couple days ago (using all my CD as well, lowering magic resist, raging strikes, fire 3 proc, swiftcast flare) then got slaughtered by someone else a few seconds later

    Perhaps you either need a patter party make up or just need to learn how to pvp better 1v1. I win some I lose some, its not a guarantee win/loss ever single time.
    I don't see why you're bringing 1v1 talk into a 72 player battle lol Do you honestly believe 8 BLMs could even touch 8 Healers in a fight for a flag?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edenlys View Post
    You're right, healers shouldn't have huge DPS, same for tanks, theirs jobs should be protect each other instead of dealing a lot of damage. Pvp is totally unbalance atm.
    No, because in each mmo any job can play agressively.
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    Yahiko Rioreusu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmaelle View Post
    No, because in each mmo any job can play agressively.
    They are talking about for PvP only just like how Resurrection was removed for SMNs only in PvP.
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    Player Divinemight's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by YaHiKoDrG View Post
    They are talking about for PvP only just like how Resurrection was removed for SMNs only in PvP.
    Nah, either of these two are fine:

    Instant cast doesnt work with Resurrection.
    Resurrection would drain all of the current mp.

    Currently, healers nor casters have issue with MP at all. I dont even know what is the point for manasong to even exist.
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    Last edited by Divinemight; 07-22-2014 at 06:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YaHiKoDrG View Post
    They are talking about for PvP only just like how Resurrection was removed for SMNs only in PvP.
    Its still no. Why any heal would be limited at playin the heal bot ? I mean literally 0 mmos that were released these last 5 - 6 years did that. You can dps and heal in every single of them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmaelle View Post
    Its still no. Why any heal would be limited at playin the heal bot ? I mean literally 0 mmos that were released these last 5 - 6 years did that. You can dps and heal in every single of them
    How about because you can choose a DPS job if you want to DPS... You're not limited to just healing if you queue as a healer. Also, allowing Healers to become a full fledged DPS in an instant is fine in PvE, but its horribly unbalanced for PvP. Jobs that have such an enormous advantage over others get nerfed in the name of balance. That's just how it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydia13 View Post
    How about because you can choose a DPS job if you want to DPS... You're not limited to just healing if you queue as a healer. Also, allowing Healers to become a full fledged DPS in an instant is fine in PvE, but its horribly unbalanced for PvP. Jobs that have such an enormous advantage over others get nerfed in the name of balance. That's just how it is.
    You probably need to pvp more often then. Ever played Guild Wars 2 ? its literally the core of the gameplay, alternating between abilities to dps ones in an instant. Besides, if you take a closer look ... scholars literally got more options to DPS than to heal in their design.

    (bio 2, miasma, bio, miasma 2, bane, shadowflare, ruin & ruin 2, energy drain vs physick, adloquium, lustrate, and succor. Rest is embrace / whisperin dawn done by the fairy)

    They are supports / mitigators that got the ability for and have to dps compared to the WHM that got way, way more tools to heal any kind of situation, got also fluid aura and sacred prism, while their dps is lower than scholar's ones.

    It is pretty balanced as it is.

    Dps should do at least 2/3 more than any healer.

    I cant recall how many times ive been yelled at by the dpsers in my team that weren't healed enough according to their tastes. The kind of dpsers, playins bards, stayin in front of their enemy in melee range, havin crappy dps and not usin buffs, doin a whoopin 3 - 2 total while I can manage to do 8 - 10 kills in each match, its not my dps that is abnormal
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    Last edited by Sygmaelle; 07-22-2014 at 09:11 PM.

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