Frontlines is ruined by exploits, SE need to fix it

[Dwill]

While it's hardly an exploit, healers are notorious for being unbalanced in MMO PvP. It's a really hard system to balance correctly - if one DPS = one healer, it negates healers, but if one healer = 2 DPS, it gets REALLY grating and difficult to play around them, especially because so few classes in FFXIV have an instant, low cooldown off-GCD interrupt.

Also, we're still in the denial stage. Healers will fight you tooth and nail that they aren't frustrating to play against.

Pretty much. And Miasma II won't do much against 4+ healers, especially if there is a SCH with Eos out since she'll pretty much negate the effect.

Can you describe to us how 1 healer can outheal let's say, two bards? Or is there some interrupt cheat going on?

Why do people always cry for changes (read nerfs) when they feel they have to put too much effort to achieve what they want.

And when there are 4 healers + what do you do ? Hope you get 6-8 bards ?

[abzoluut]

Pretty much. And Miasma II won't do much against 4+ healers, especially if there is a SCH with Eos out since she'll pretty much negate the effect.



And when there are 4 healers + what do you do ? Hope you get 6-8 bards ?

Nope, you adjust tactic. You'll probably have a blm to scythe, or a pld to spam RoH. That's two more healers interrupted. Just to name something you know, I'm sure you can think of more.

It just amazes me how people want to just go in and win whithout any challenge. Even worse, got this guy in my alliance complaining how he can never heal, but then he didn't know he could use PvP abilities <-- Do you guys realize how many people have no clue regarding PvP, shocking!

[Dwill]

Nope, you adjust tactic. You'll probably have a blm to scythe, or a pld to spam RoH. That's two more healers interrupted. Just to name something you know, I'm sure you can think of more.

It just amazes me how people want to just go in and win whithout any challenge. Even worse, got this guy in my alliance complaining how he can never heal, but then he didn't know he could use PvP abilities <-- Do you guys realize how many people have no clue regarding PvP, shocking!

Ignoring the fact that people can and will peel for them. Thus making it further infuriating.

[Xisin]

Nope, you adjust tactic. You'll probably have a blm to scythe, or a pld to spam RoH. That's two more healers interrupted. Just to name something you know, I'm sure you can think of more.

It just amazes me how people want to just go in and win whithout any challenge. Even worse, got this guy in my alliance complaining how he can never heal, but then he didn't know he could use PvP abilities <-- Do you guys realize how many people have no clue regarding PvP, shocking!

except that most healer abilities cast in under 2 seconds or are instant, even without spellspeed stacking, if i go completely spell speed in every slot on blm my GCD sits at 2,29 my whm friend who does not spell speed stack cast at around 1.87. So 1 for 1 does not result in interrupts, esuna being super fast + purify being castable on other targets makes this worse (dps can un stun lock that healer.)

The legendary healer brigades lay the smack down on dps by healing and not attacking lol
Priceless!
How does 8 blm flare spamming a group of camping healers fair?
I mean have you ever considered that?

Healers have an aoe pvp ability that reduces all magic damage by 40% + protect (the whm variation) couple this with the fact that we're stuck in i80 gear and its not really a whole lots of damage. The best way to take down a healer is phantom dart -> fire > firestarter swiftcast flare. without swift flare is a very large casting time that coincidentally can be interrupted by ruin 2 or aero. and btw they do actually attack, the difference is they can usually take their time with it cause most dps cant actually heal. schs have their 3 dots + bane and ruin. Whm have holy, aero and stone.

[Edeline]

except that most healer abilities cast in under 2 seconds or are instant, even without spellspeed stacking, if i go completely spell speed in every slot on blm my GCD sits at 2,29 my whm friend who does not spell speed stack cast at around 1.87. So 1 for 1 does not result in interrupts, esuna being super fast + purify being castable on other targets makes this worse (dps can un stun lock that healer.)

Healers have an aoe pvp ability that reduces all magic damage by 40% + protect (the whm variation) couple this with the fact that we're stuck in i80 gear and its not really a whole lots of damage. The best way to take down a healer is phantom dart -> fire > firestarter swiftcast flare. without swift flare is a very large casting time that coincidentally can be interrupted by ruin 2 or aero. and btw they do actually attack, the difference is they can usually take their time with it cause most dps cant actually heal. schs have their 3 dots + bane and ruin. Whm have holy, aero and stone.

Sorry but my eyes bled just reading your bs. Play as healer and you will understand, even 1 second cast spells won't be able to come out, unless again, you ignore healers and let them heal spam everyone.