Frontlines is ruined by exploits, SE need to fix it

[Ephany]

I would like to report an exploit I noticed that's been a problem since Frontlines came out. Classes have skills that will do damage to players on my team, or heal members of opposing teams. In both of these cases situations can arise where my team doesn't win every match. These abilities need to be nerfed or removed immediately to preserve PvP balance!

Pretty much this.
I'm normally very pvp focused in mmos and in every one that I've played, it's the same thing.
People get beaten by something, cry for nerfs, and before we know it, those same people are back complaining that pvp is dying because it has no challenge. But when something new comes along to strengthen it, they cry for a nerf again because they died.
It's all about ego :/

[Kimikryo]

next maps should focus on PVE in the PVP area like this http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/pvp...alterac-valley im pretty sure most people understand this. that way your forced to have more then one role.

right now we pretty much have this http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/pvp...s/arathi-basin

actually it more feels like a mixture of both

maybe even a bit like Eye of the Storm.

as for op
lol

we once, I don't know how, won with 3 healers .... in all 3 groups combined ... with 0 in mine (A) and the maelstrom had a group with 5 healers ...

everything can be done and countered, you just have to know how. AND be willing to learn and not run crying when something doesnt run "your way"

[Vesuvias]

Pretty much this.
I'm normally very pvp focused in mmos and in every one that I've played, it's the same thing.
People get beaten by something, cry for nerfs, and before we know it, those same people are back complaining that pvp is dying because it has no challenge. But when something new comes along to strengthen it, they cry for a nerf again because they died.
It's all about ego :/

I can agree with you 100%. however that being said, i do think that pvp in this game needs some sort of re-balance, as the games classes and systems dont exactly allow for the best of pvp implementations. As I often find myself finding the games system to be rather limiting on what skills you can, and cant use in pvp. Also ill just throw this out there, there are certain classes in this game that are either just plain ridiculous in pvp, or are so lack luster that your best bet is to either hope to support by providing occasional situational skills or by providing a limit break to a healer.

I will also like to state that the free form nature of Frontlines when it comes to making a party, is a little ridiculous, as ive seen some just plain hilarious parties in this format. Such as entire parties being made with only dps, or tanks and yes i have seen one mostly healer party. That setup allows a certain amount of ridiculousness which is fine, IF you couldn't make a premade and totally curb stop your enemies.

[Malamasala]

Don't worry. This will be fixed when they introduce "Whoever has an Avatar to summon will win the Frontline" mechanic later.

[abzoluut]

Pretty much. And Miasma II won't do much against 4+ healers, especially if there is a SCH with Eos out since she'll pretty much negate the effect.



And when there are 4 healers + what do you do ? Hope you get 6-8 bards ?

Nope, you adjust tactic. You'll probably have a blm to scythe, or a pld to spam RoH. That's two more healers interrupted. Just to name something you know, I'm sure you can think of more.

It just amazes me how people want to just go in and win whithout any challenge. Even worse, got this guy in my alliance complaining how he can never heal, but then he didn't know he could use PvP abilities <-- Do you guys realize how many people have no clue regarding PvP, shocking!

[Dwill]

Nope, you adjust tactic. You'll probably have a blm to scythe, or a pld to spam RoH. That's two more healers interrupted. Just to name something you know, I'm sure you can think of more.

It just amazes me how people want to just go in and win whithout any challenge. Even worse, got this guy in my alliance complaining how he can never heal, but then he didn't know he could use PvP abilities <-- Do you guys realize how many people have no clue regarding PvP, shocking!

Ignoring the fact that people can and will peel for them. Thus making it further infuriating.

[Edeline]

Pure conjecture. Give me one argument on how having 4-8 healers in PvP is even remotely close to balanced ?

One argument? It's an alliance based gameplay. Call for reinforcements from other teams, have your dpsers keep the healers busy (honestly, 1 dps on each healer is enough. One single attack = cast broken). Focus targets, no matter how many healers a team has if 1 target gets focused and destroyed with crits.

[Dwill]

One argument? It's an alliance based gameplay. Call for reinforcements from other teams, have your dpsers keep the healers busy (honestly, 1 dps on each healer is enough. One single attack = cast broken). Focus targets, no matter how many healers a team has if 1 target gets focused and destroyed with crits.

Good job, now you don't have the manpower to deal with Helio plus your other outposts are lacking in protection.

You're making it seems like no one has Surecast nor an PvP abilities or how to use them properly.

[Jubez187]

Just taking a moment to point out that a single healer can out-heal the DPS of two DPS, and an unburdened healer can out-heal three or more.

Game's not balanced for this. There needs to be limits.

I mean there's a reason the healers are healing 200k HP on the end-game screen and an average DPS does about 40-50k

[Edeline]

Good job, now you don't have the manpower to deal with Helio plus your other outposts are lacking in protection.

You're making it seems like no one has Surecast nor an PvP abilities or how to use them properly.

You don't have to stay in a single flag, you know, coordination, communication and stuff? Yesterday we had a semi empty alliance and a whole party lacking healers, people from other parties switched to healers and split to help that group, we were still outnumbered and guess what, we won. As long as you're not running around like headless chickens and you know what to do and when to do it, it's fine.

Also, you're making it seem like everyone can spam Surecast or other PvP abilities all the time, without cooldownds (please don't tell me you're free to run around waiting for cooldowns, because I would facedesk).

I mean there's a reason the healers are healing 200k HP on the end-game screen and an average DPS does about 40-50k

And that reason is because you can heal many people at once as long as you're free to do so, while DPSers focus targets 1 by 1. I once did 80kish damage on blm because I was ignored all the time, people kept going for healers and I was destroying those attacking healers, all the time. My point is, ignore someone and that someone will do big numbers, be it healing or damage :]