Frontlines is ruined by exploits, SE need to fix it

[Ephany]

I would like to report an exploit I noticed that's been a problem since Frontlines came out. Classes have skills that will do damage to players on my team, or heal members of opposing teams. In both of these cases situations can arise where my team doesn't win every match. These abilities need to be nerfed or removed immediately to preserve PvP balance!

Pretty much this.
I'm normally very pvp focused in mmos and in every one that I've played, it's the same thing.
People get beaten by something, cry for nerfs, and before we know it, those same people are back complaining that pvp is dying because it has no challenge. But when something new comes along to strengthen it, they cry for a nerf again because they died.
It's all about ego :/

[Vesuvias]

Pretty much this.
I'm normally very pvp focused in mmos and in every one that I've played, it's the same thing.
People get beaten by something, cry for nerfs, and before we know it, those same people are back complaining that pvp is dying because it has no challenge. But when something new comes along to strengthen it, they cry for a nerf again because they died.
It's all about ego :/

I can agree with you 100%. however that being said, i do think that pvp in this game needs some sort of re-balance, as the games classes and systems dont exactly allow for the best of pvp implementations. As I often find myself finding the games system to be rather limiting on what skills you can, and cant use in pvp. Also ill just throw this out there, there are certain classes in this game that are either just plain ridiculous in pvp, or are so lack luster that your best bet is to either hope to support by providing occasional situational skills or by providing a limit break to a healer.

I will also like to state that the free form nature of Frontlines when it comes to making a party, is a little ridiculous, as ive seen some just plain hilarious parties in this format. Such as entire parties being made with only dps, or tanks and yes i have seen one mostly healer party. That setup allows a certain amount of ridiculousness which is fine, IF you couldn't make a premade and totally curb stop your enemies.

[Ephany]

Being a healer in pvp....
Cast heal --> cas...STUN... cas....STUN... cas... STUN... cas... STUN...

[Malamasala]

Don't worry. This will be fixed when they introduce "Whoever has an Avatar to summon will win the Frontline" mechanic later.

[Fawkes]

When I first heard about how there would be PvP abilities I assumed they meant you would have an entirely different set of abilities just for PvP that replaced all your normal stuff, because they talked about them like they were there to help balance things. I was kind of surprised that you just keep all your normal business and have a couple PvP specific "oh ****" buttons on 3 minute cooldowns.

[Lemuria]

When I first heard about how there would be PvP abilities I assumed they meant you would have an entirely different set of abilities just for PvP that replaced all your normal stuff, because they talked about them like they were there to help balance things. I was kind of surprised that you just keep all your normal business and have a couple PvP specific "oh shit" buttons on 3 minute cooldowns.

You do lose a few skills in PvP though. Not all of your arsenal transfers across, and some skills transfer but simply have no effect, such as Provoke.

Honestly though, the PvP skills aren't particularly great. You need to invest a TON of points in them to get them up to scratch and aside from a handful, most are just too similar to your existing skills to be that beneficial.

[Quesse]

I keep noticing trend of full group of WHM/SCH going in frontline and almost impossible to kill without LB. its creating big imbalance and allow some players to exploit this to farm wins without properly PvPing.

I really suggest for SE to fix the system simply by not allowing more then 2 healers in a full group. ie, if a third player try to change his class to healer during the match, he will not be able to until one of those healers switch to something else.


Edit: if you do not want to call it exploit go ahead. but it sure is over powered and cause imbalance in frontline

I don't see a problem here, given that you can change class/job at any time. Getting whooped by WHM/SCH? Level WHM/SCH and lay down some whoop of your own!

You only play Marauder you say?? Well this isn't WOW, its FFXIV and you'd better level all your jobs and classes to be successful.

[Platinum_Disco]

get a SMN and lay down some mortal strike debuffs? Welcome to actual pvp - if you're getting cheesed, find a way to outplay the cheese.

[Shougun]

There should probably be some sort of balance on the healings done, I've seen these massive healing blobs before- they're incredibly annoying. Since the point is to stay on the circles instead of being spread out the aoe healing issue is definitely compounded.

Could be a stacking debuff that reduces healing effectiveness and has a 5 second non stacking timer, then spamming cure from 5 healers would be ineffective quickly but two or so would not be. Non-stacking meaning that each unit of the debuff has its own timer.

Healer stacking isnt that useful in mid, comparatively op on the circles (imo). There is one spell you can use that is awesome if they are stacked though, the one that reduces casting speed by 50%.. lol awesome.

[Yumi_umi]

The legendary healer brigades lay the smack down on dps by healing and not attacking lol
Priceless!
How does 8 blm flare spamming a group of camping healers fair?
I mean have you ever considered that?