Desynthesis Endgame Guide

[Nyalia]

If you do not gain experience, you do not lose experience. If your skill is maxed at 100.00 in the class you are currently using, you will never lose experience in another craft when desynthing. I'll put that in the OP. Even if you could gain experience, if you didn't gain any, you can't lose any.

HOWEVER, there is one exception to this: desynthing while over the 300 point limit. If you're at 300.12 and you desynth anything, even if it gives no experience, you will lose 0.12 in a random craft that you have at least 1.01 in (unless every single desynth class you have points in is "locked" but playing with that is really irritating if you desynth hundreds of items daily like I do). If that random craft hits 1.00, it won't go below 1.00, and if you're still over the limit, your next desynth will trigger this again and so on.

[Akamon]

hi Nyalia. just wanted to say thanks for much for this guide and the continued updating.

just wanted to follow-up on one thing - in one of your last messages you mentioned a rotation for NQ > HQ for the artisan turn-in's and left me intrigued! did you post it yet? (if so, i must be blind and i'll go back and look again). interested to see what stats you're working with and what you came up with.

[Nyalia]

Whoops, no, I didn't. This macro is designed for people who are near 4* capability who do not want to pay attention to the craft. It requires at least 428 craft and works best with over 400 control. It takes 394 CP and thus requires HQ Bouillabaisse.

This is not a 100% macro. I have, however, had very good luck with it. If all HTs succeed, you hit 100%. If one fails, you still hit 100%. If two fail, you hit around 96%. With three fails, you hit around 77%. Four fails will put you down near 29%. Though, if your final BB falls on a Good, you get much higher than that and chances are about 25% of that happening, further increasing your chances. On average, two should fail.

----Macro 1----
/ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
/ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Waste Not II" <wait.2>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>

----Macro 2----
/ac "Manipulation" <wait.2>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Steady Hand" <wait.2>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/ac "Ingenuity II" <wait.2>
/ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
/ac "Standard Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>

If you try this, let me know how it works out for you?

[Kiara]

If you do not gain experience, you do not lose experience. If your skill is maxed at 100.00 in the class you are currently using, you will never lose experience in another craft when desynthing. I'll put that in the OP. Even if you could gain experience, if you didn't gain any, you can't lose any.

Awesome, thanks Nyalia.

So even if I desynth, say, Allagan equipment (only 70% at Level 100) and it fails or succeeds, no other Crafting Desynth will be affected right? (Just double-checking.)

[Nyalia]

So even if I desynth, say, Allagan equipment (only 70% at Level 100) and it fails or succeeds, no other Crafting Desynth will be affected right? (Just double-checking.)

Correct.

(Of course, that's assuming your combined desynth skill is at or below the 300.00 cap. See the exception explained above and in the OP for details.)

[Kiara]

Awesome! Thanks Nya.

[BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY]

so... it is possible to get 3 proficiencies to 100? i mean if you level ONLY 3 crafting classes to Lv30+. and then got those 3 to 100 desynthesis before leveling any others... it should be possible to maintain all 3 at 100? so long as you don't desynthesize anything with another crafting class. just spit-balling here.

[Nyalia]

so... it is possible to get 3 proficiencies to 100? i mean if you level ONLY 3 crafting classes to Lv30+. and then got those 3 to 100 desynthesis before leveling any others... it should be possible to maintain all 3 at 100? so long as you don't desynthesize anything with another crafting class. just spit-balling here.

Theoretically, yes, but I feel rather strongly that it's not worth it. Leaving five crafting classes at 15 pretty much completely deprives you of endgame crafting for all classes since you need the cross-class skills to do much of anything at endgame. If you're not doing endgame crafting, then sure, but the tradeoff is very minimal. So, only to people who have literally zero interest in ever crafting should do this. But, if you're not interested in ever crafting, why are you interested in desynth? I guess to make money, but you'd make so much more with a combination of crafting and desynth...

[himym]

hello i currently have my blacksmith desynthesis at 75.00 and i was thinking i am going to feed it summoning bells, i can just craft NQ summoning bells right there aren't any HQ lol or what

[Nyalia]

hello i currently have my blacksmith desynthesis at 75.00 and i was thinking i am going to feed it summoning bells, i can just craft NQ summoning bells right there aren't any HQ lol or what

You never need to HQ items that you're crafting for desynth (It just makes overmelding easier, but not significantly if you're just doing one overmeld). Note that at 75.00 skill, summoning bells will have only a 22.5% chance of success. So will Perfect Pestles. However, there are no easiliy accessible i70 items. Before using Summoning Bells, compare the price of Summoning Bells (ferberite + scheelite + petrified log + scarlet sap) vs NQ Perfect Pestles (cypress log x2 + aged pestle pieces + pieste leather) (either made youself with all NQ mats or bought from the MB because NQ ones have no other use). You can even try to HQ them from all NQ mats, and if you succeed, sell the HQ version and if you don't, desynth the NQ version.


Other options for you include:
- Continuing to use i55 items until dSkill 80 (price ceiling is 3,000 for an i55 item since you can use Aged Pestles from the Silver Bazaar vendor if no cheaper options exist).
- Making Artisan turnins (perferably Artisan's Chocobotail Saw) and desynthing them (those are i70, so you'll have a 60% chance at dSkill 75.00 and can get Mastercraft Demimateria from them. But, this is time consuming and each attempt costs about 40,000 gil).
- Doing HM primals and desynthing Ifrit/Garuda/Moogle weapons (see OP for best classes). Those are i60, i70, and i75 respectively. Remember that there are no Titan weapons that are desynthable by BSM. Ifrit will have a 77.5% chance of successful desynth, Garuda will have a 60%, and Moogle will have a 50%.
- NQ Darksteel Ingots are probably tanking in price due to the changes to Artisan trade-ins. Check out their prices, and see if the i70 crafted items are cheap to make now.

Summary:

• i55 will net you ~0.04 experience (Aged Pestle - cost: 3k, can yield FC2s and aged pestle pieces)
• i60 will net you ~0.10 experience (Ifrit HM weapon - cost: Ifrit, can yield BC2s and Inferno Demimateria)
• i70 will net you ~0.27 experience (Artisan's Chocobotail Saw - cost: 40k + time, can yield MCDs and FC3s) -OR- (Garuda HM weapon - cost: Garuda, can yield BC3s and Vortex Demimateria) -OR- (Misericorde Blades - cost: Darksteel Ingot + Rose Gold Nugget, can yield FC3s)
• i75 will net you ~0.35 experience (Moggle HM weapon - cost: Moggle Mog, can yield BC3s and Demimog Demimateria)
• i90 will net you ~0.70 experience (Summoning Bell - cost: ~20-30k based on server prices, can yield FC3s) -OR- (Perfect Pestle - cost: ~20-30k based on server prices, can yield FC3s)