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  1. #1151
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    That's fine. I think the 1-100 stuff is probably fine. Probably the only thing worth adding is that you can use Allied Seals to buy the old ilvl 100 stuff for very little, which makes it very good for leveling desynth, even relatively early. I think I started around 80. The accessories are like 25 seals and come in at least GSM, WVR, and LTW flavors, so even if you fail a bunch, it hardly matters. Poetics and Centurio Seals are also generally helpful from like 160-260. It's not going to be as fast as some people probably want, but I think it's the most frugal way, while also still being effective.
    Thank you! That sounds like sound advice, and I'll include it in the RR->HW gap advice. The HW->SB gap is so easily passed with Wolf Marks though. Getting 1.00 points from a 100% chance desynth is really, really nice, especially if you're running Frontlines Roulette every day for those 40 Creation tomes. Takes patience, but it's working great for me and I'm on my second class doing it (GSM). Of course, it's better for some classes than others (LTW/GSM being the best, ARM being next best because shields, then WVR/BSM, then ALC/CRP who always suffer).

    The 1-100 stuff should at least be edited for the new exp and success formulas. The new success formula is so generous! It's a 60% bonus from at least ~160 to ~245, and still a 50% bonus at 260. The bonus means that at dSkill = rlvl, you have an 80% chance at r160-r245 where before it was a 50% chance. Throw in Tinker's Bacon, and you have a 95% chance. Also, you gain about ~0.9 from the desynths at dSkill = rlvl, so that's nice too. I still don't have the new success rate and exp formulas completely nailed down, but this implies that the bonus will extend through the endgame this time.

    Again, I could really use a few datapoints if anyone's willing to help out, especially in the 1-150 range! My classes are all too close together to get a good read on the overall formula.
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

  2. #1152
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinaSel View Post
    Currently stuck at 200 Blacksmith Desynth. Splendor items give either no increase in skill or about a .10 increase each time and are VERY annoying to get.

    Tomestone gear is also difficult to acquire. It seems like items in Stormblood also have 0.0% chance to desynth.

    I honestly don't know what I should desynth to get from 200 to say, 250?

    What method should I use??
    Replica High Alagan Weapons
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  3. #1153
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    Here's some desynth data around where I am.

    d-level, item, success %, gain
    103.66 choker of divine death (i80) 100 0.16
    103.82 hero's earrings of slaying (i90) 100 0.74
    104.56 noct earrings (i110) 79.2 1.5
    106.06 weathered daystar ring (i100) 100 1.12
    107.18 weathered daystar ring (i100) 100 0.99
    109.02 agate ring of healing 74.8 0.67


    and some with bacon food:
    just bacon used for the following:
    d-level, item, success %, gain
    80.01 noct plate belt i110 40.5 1.91
    83.18 noct hoplon 45.9 1.64
    84.82 noct gauntlet 47.7 2.95
    87.77 noct greave 53.1 2.89
    90.66 daystar solloret 58.5 2.84
    93.5 noct lorica 63.9 2.21
    95.71 mythrite alembic 38.25 1.6
    97.31 mythrite tasset of fending 58.65 0.88
    98.19 mythrite tasset of fending 60.35 1.13
    99,32 mythrite tasset of fending 62.05 1.25
    100.57 mythrite tasset of fending 63.75 1.32
    101.89 mythrite tasset of fending 65.45 1.37
    103.26 mythrite tasset of fending 68.85 0.89
    104.15 mythrite tasset of fending 70.55 0.81
    104.96 mythrite tasset of fending 70.55 0.9
    105.86 mythrite tasset of fending 72.25 1.2
    107.06 mythrite tasset of fending 75.65 0.73
    107.79 mythrite tasset of fending 75.65 0.77
    108.56 mythrite tasset of fending 77.35 0.83

    Sorry for the formatting.
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    Last edited by Syrinath; 07-26-2017 at 03:09 PM.

  4. #1154
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrinath View Post
    Here's some desynth data around where I am.
    Thanks for the data! This is exactly what I'm looking for.

    I think it's interesting just how much experience you were getting with ARM, though you were doing desynths with significantly lower chance of success than you did with GSM. I'll have to try harder desynths to compare my classes (LTW/GSM/BSM), but if anyone has exp data for CRP/ALC (the two that I expect to have the biggest exp bonuses), it would really help!
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

  5. #1155
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    Elbereth Gilthoniel
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    Can you add a rough estimation of how many items will need for each leveling section? Not an exact number of course, but a rough estimation.. the reason is that i have all crafts leveled and want to craft many of these to save lot of gil but cannot craft one by one

    Thanks in advance
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    Adore Mi
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    I have to ask. I've seen several people mention Poetics i230 gear. Where are you obtaining this because I have not seen any such gear in Mor Dhona at the Poetics vendor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    I have to ask. I've seen several people mention Poetics i230 gear. Where are you obtaining this because I have not seen any such gear in Mor Dhona at the Poetics vendor.
    you get these on idylshire
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  8. #1158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rohirrim View Post
    Can you add a rough estimation of how many items will need for each leveling section? Not an exact number of course, but a rough estimation.. the reason is that i have all crafts leveled and want to craft many of these to save lot of gil but cannot craft one by one

    Thanks in advance
    For that, I'd need more exp data. Do you have any to share? It also appears to change depending on the desynth class, with what used to be the harder to level ones giving more exp per successful desynth than the easy to level classes.
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    For that, I'd need more exp data. Do you have any to share? It also appears to change depending on the desynth class, with what used to be the harder to level ones giving more exp per successful desynth than the easy to level classes.
    Ok I see :P Btw, at 180 Desynth skill, what do you recommend to buy with my wolf marks (got plenty while leveling). There are 180 and 205 ilvl items if I remember... is it better to buy the 205 ones and use Bacon Broth and Tinker's Calm or buy the 180?
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    I have another question for you guys. My weaver is level 70 and my weaver desynth is around 222. I can reasonably desynth the Hailstorm Gloves of Casting/Healing (level 60, i230). However, I tried to desynth the Serge Apron (level 66, i230) and I can't. It is desynthesizable but my chance is 0. Why is this, considering the battle gloves are the same ilevel?
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