Desynthesis Endgame Guide

[Rath]

Hi Nya and All,

So is there anything to take Weaver Desynthesis from i160 -> i180 (Max)? Or it's just a waiting game?

I got to 178 desynthing chimera felt sash of casting from the node. 11488 each. It is profitable at best and break-even at worst. I desynth any weaver gear I get from ex roulette now. I tend to stockpile it and do them all once I have a lot, as well as all my fish, gsm items. This way I can craft and use one HQ tinkers and break everything all at once.

Also the il150 items can take you to 178 gsm, but the skillups are few and far between. They are also usually not profitable.

[Nyalia]

^ What everyone else has said. Even getting 0.0001 skill ups (10% chance of 0.01 skill up - lowest possible amount of exp a desynth can give) is enough to hit max, as long as you are making money from it. When Bridesmaid's Sandals were introduced, I went from ~60 LTW dSkill to 100.00 (max at the time) on the r70 shoes. Sure, it took about a thousand desynths to get from 99.00 to 100.00, but I desynthed over five thousand of them, so that really wasn't much of anything. I might do the same with my favorite belts in 3.0 to get to LTW 178 (they are only r148), and that's totally a valid option as they are still very profitable right now.

But, as others have said, dungeon gear from Ex dungeons is r160. It will take dozens to level up, so it won't happen fast. Alternatively, just wait it out. Getting your dSkill up ahead of time doesn't generally help *that* much in the long run, especially if you don't generally use Tinker's Bacon. Tinker's Bacon is the equivalent of 7.5-10 desynth skill points, after all, depending on the relative dSkill/rlvls involved.

Only CUL desynth can get useful amounts of dSkill near cap, as there are r180 fish that can be desynthed. However, I believe the fish jump from r150 (f60) right to r180 (f60*), so that's likely an awkward gap...



LTW and WVR guides largely updated with ~100-160 suggestions. I'll do the others soon, and then redo the early parts of the guide now that I have a program that tells me exactly which are the cheapest way to level, and which leveling items are actually profitable!

[Ranzan]

Was wonder which would be better to level up between Arm or Bsm for Adamantite nuggets? imma reset 1 of my desynths cause on my server there are becoming more pricey. ><

[Zorlinta]

Nyalia just a question, did u know or have heard into what can be desynthed the blue script items?, i would like try but for gatherer feet im just have LTW 3% sucess rate unbuffed, and too i would first get my other folkore tomes, but im curious if something interesting may come from it.

[Arcticharm]

Only CUL desynth can get useful amounts of dSkill near cap, as there are r180 fish that can be desynthed. However, I believe the fish jump from r150 (f60) right to r180 (f60*), so that's likely an awkward gap...

Just chiming in on Cul desynth, I'm at 164ish now and I've just been using fish I've gathered up while leveling/doing blue/red scrips. The above gap mentioned didn't really exist and it's been a smooth transition for skill after I got through the mounds of ice faerie bodies I used to get from pre ARR levels to ~130s. Currently just blowing up the thunder eels and thaliks that aren't good enough for red scrips for skill and they're giving decent skill (around 0.10) without Tinker's Bacon

[Nyalia]

Was wonder which would be better to level up between Arm or Bsm for Adamantite nuggets? imma reset 1 of my desynths cause on my server there are becoming more pricey. ><

I'm pretty sure it'll be either ARM or LTW. ARM: Adamantite Tassets of ..., bought for 11,484 from the Goblin Trader, gives 1-2x Adamantite Nugget (EY: 0.5) and 1x Dragon Leather (EY: 0.33). LTW: Serpentskin Hunting Belt of ..., bought for 11,880 from the Repository Node, gives 1x Adamantite Nugget (EY: 0.33) and 1-2x Amphiptere Leather (EY: 0.5).

BSM's best option is noticeably worse than either (I think it's Adamantite Scythe bought from the Junkmonger in Matoya's cave? But, it's 50% more expensive than the belts, still only EY: 0.33, and other drops from it are all junk)

EDIT: Oops! Sorry about that, I totally missed Adamantite Pliers. BSM is actually not bad for getting Adamantite, but ARM is still better. Adamantite Pliers are 15,966 gil in Matoya's Cave, which is sitll 50% more than ARM/LTW belts, but has a yield of 0.5 for Adamantite Nugget and 0.33 for Adamantite Rivets. If you need the rivets, this is technically the best option by a slight margin... but that's ignoring the value of the other drops.

So, to math it out:

ARM: 22,968 per Adamantite Nugget (but each Nugget comes with 2/3rds of a Dragon Leather for free)
BSM: 19,159 per Adamantite Nugget (assuming Rivets count as Nuggets)
LTW: 35,640 per Adamantite Nugget (but each Nugget comes with 1.5 Amphiptere Leather for free)

If Dragon Leather is worth 6k or more, ARM is better than BSM. Otherwise, BSM is better than ARM.
If Amphiptere Leather is worth 11k or more, LTW is better than BSM. Otherwise, BSM is better than LTW.
If Amphiptere Leather is worth more than: ((4/9 * Dragon Leather) + 8,448), LTW is better than ARM. Otherwise, ARM is better than LTW.

Nyalia just a question, did u know or have heard into what can be desynthed the blue script items?, i would like try but for gatherer feet im just have LTW 3% sucess rate unbuffed, and too i would first get my other folkore tomes, but im curious if something interesting may come from it.

See the post a little above you - that's the only time I've heard someone desynth one of those. So, I have no idea what can be obtained. There's a chance MCDs are obtained from them, if SE is consistent, but who knows?

Just chiming in on Cul desynth, I'm at 164ish now and I've just been using fish I've gathered up while leveling/doing blue/red scrips. The above gap mentioned didn't really exist and it's been a smooth transition for skill after I got through the mounds of ice faerie bodies I used to get from pre ARR levels to ~130s. Currently just blowing up the thunder eels and thaliks that aren't good enough for red scrips for skill and they're giving decent skill (around 0.10) without Tinker's Bacon

Well, while CUL is definitely quick to level up to 165, I was worried about ~168-175 due to the need for r180 fish. You should have a low chance of success to desynth those (27% at 168), and I expected them to be difficult to fish up like the r80 fish were. But, if you're doing it anyway for red scrips, that makes sense!

[Aeyis]

Nyalia just a question, did u know or have heard into what can be desynthed the blue script items?, i would like try but for gatherer feet im just have LTW 3% sucess rate unbuffed, and too i would first get my other folkore tomes, but im curious if something interesting may come from it.

Trailblazer boots: 1x Archaeornis leather.

[Ranzan]

Thx Nyalia for the insight of how to get nuggets. Looks like imma go the LTW route cause its my highest atm plus those leathers are around that range too.

[Kiara]

Thanks Rath, Nya! I'll give it a shot.

[Ranzan]

This guide is OP got my LTW from 110 to 170 in an Half hour!