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  1. #411
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyChain View Post
    Has anyone gotten anything nice from the Artisan's/Forager's off-hand (secondary) tools?
    That would be insane to do. 6 ehcatl sealants to make one of those.

    Quote Originally Posted by Squand View Post
    Why isn't BSM doing these for desynth? Mythral Baslards at lvl 41. Or Mythral Pugiones lvl 45. Horned hatchet has so many pieces. It's hard to rinse and repeat.

    Anyway, those are the items I did and felt like I broke pretty close to even.
    guide was made before ninja. and there's a lot to it and a lot to update. Just use common sense more than the specific item recommendations.
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    Got a Rose Gold Ring from desynthing Better Crowned Pies. And then had the good fortune to desynth that into a Rose Gold Ingot!
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    Neri Feralheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by PokingAround View Post
    Got a Rose Gold Ring from desynthing Better Crowned Pies. And then had the good fortune to desynth that into a Rose Gold Ingot!
    Nice! Thanks for letting us know that. But... why would you desynth that ring? Those things go for over 100k on my server. They're BiS for DoL retainers and Fishers.
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyChain View Post
    Has anyone gotten anything nice from the Artisan's/Forager's off-hand (secondary) tools?
    You can get sealants back. So if you failed to hq it you can desyn it and pray.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    Nice! Thanks for letting us know that. But... why would you desynth that ring? Those things go for over 100k on my server. They're BiS for DoL retainers and Fishers.
    Well, mostly because I didn't know that. But now I do, and that's very interesting. Never occurred to me to fill combat jewelry with DoL materia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PokingAround View Post
    Well, mostly because I didn't know that. But now I do, and that's very interesting. Never occurred to me to fill combat jewelry with DoL materia.
    The meld caps for an i70 item are +5 Gathering and +5 Perception. i55 items are capped at +4 Gathering, +4 Perception. Because FSH only care about Gathering and Perception, the i70 accessories are much better for them than the i55 GP accessories. For DoL retainers, the only stat that matters is Gathering, so again, the GP accessories, unmelded, are as useful as the combat accessories, but the combat accessories can be melded with more Gathering.

    The i90 and i110 accessories are DoW/DoM only to prevent people from using them as GP-less DoL accessories.
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

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    just thought I would give my input. Trying to get through that horrid 75-85 stage on bsm. I thought since I did alot of aged pestle, I used the pieces to make perfect pestle and was desynthing them. Guide says they give FC3 but they have only been giving me FC1's bit of a bummer but still cheaper then breaking loads of summoning bells since after making about 20 of them the only ones that did succeed only gave me back the damn feathers.
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    I grinded my way to about 50 Artisan's Spectacles in good hopes to get enough MD for Supra. At lvl 81 GSM I found the courage to desynth 'em.
    The result was: 40% blew up, 8 FC3 and 0 MD... -__-

    Needles to say I'm greatly discouraged. The above took at least a month with casual+ play. I should have known. My RNG experience with this game have been atrocious to say the least.

    Anyone else noticed this kinda daily demimateria exhaustion? The yield seems to get lower the more I desynth. Another limitation on grind from SE? I'm the kind of person who hordes items/currency before synthing/desynthing/buy. This tactic in regard of desynthing seems -in my experience- rather poor 'cause of the aforementioned "exhaustion".

    <offtopic>Originally this post was longer. Apparently one can't wait even 5 mins before SE logs you out. This is 4th attempt to post. The solution is to copypaste from notepad. Seriously SE, what the ??! Stop wasting my time </offtopic>
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  9. #419
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guesswhat View Post
    I grinded my way to about 50 Artisan's Spectacles in good hopes to get enough MD for Supra. At lvl 81 GSM I found the courage to desynth 'em.
    The result was: 40% blew up, 8 FC3 and 0 MD... -__-

    Needles to say I'm greatly discouraged.
    You had a 71.5% desynth success change, right? 40% is unlucky, but not that unlucky. Sounds like you broke 20 where the average was 15. If you wanted to reduce that chance and had a giant number of things to desynth all at once, you might have considered using HQ Tinker's Calm, and possibly HQ Bacon Broth as well. Together, you would have had half the fail rate and wound up with 10 more successful desynths on average.

    As people have pointed out on this thread and others, spectacles aren't the best method of getting MCDs anymore. Tools have a much higher yield than specs. For GSM, you could use Artisan's Needles.
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
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  10. #420
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurihyuga View Post
    just thought I would give my input. Trying to get through that horrid 75-85 stage on bsm. I thought since I did alot of aged pestle, I used the pieces to make perfect pestle and was desynthing them. Guide says they give FC3 but they have only been giving me FC1's bit of a bummer but still cheaper then breaking loads of summoning bells since after making about 20 of them the only ones that did succeed only gave me back the damn feathers.
    Huh. That's not what people told me you get from the Perfect items =\ I don't get why some high rlvl items give FC1s... Such a weird decision on SE's part.
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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