Quote Originally Posted by PROBOUND View Post
Thanks for pointing this out. Still cant see why its considered the cheapest way of farming B2s considering it uses several 1star gathering node items as well as crystals. We are able get the same amount (1-2 demi) from the lvl 48-49 gear and those only require shards and cheaper matts. Budding rosewood wand, Tane mahuta, Embossed book of electrum etc.
I have never gotten a Battlecraft II from ilvl 48-49 gear, only from i55 gear. I get Battlecraft Is from ilvl 48-49 gear. Can you post a screenshot of getting a II from items in that range?


Also, yes, my math was taking into account the 70% success rate. On my server, HQ Dzemael Tomatoes are going for 5k each, making the relish cost 80k each (the shards are not cheap either). Summoning bells, in contrast, take only ~30k in materials (8k for Scheelite, 10k for Petrified Log, 4k for Scarlet Sap, 3k for Ferberite, 3k for clusters). Taking the 70% into account (and rounding up), that costs 43k, which is about half the price of the relish. Even if the relish has a higher chance of giving Demi IIIs (which is not what my experience shows), it's a more expensive (and time consuming) option.

Also, random being random, we need a larger sample size to really get the correct yields. All my sample sizes are well under 100, which is hardly enough to conclusively say anything about the actual chances. Adding your results for Artisan Spectacles to what I have read elsewhere, that's 140 attempts, 22 FC IIIs, giving a chance of 15.7%. The more data I get, the more the numbers are converging on the same range. I'm starting to think that there isn't a difference between i90 and i70, even if i90 can give sets of 2s. However, on my server, i90 items are half the price of i70 items across the board. i70s tend to be about 100k each (artisan specs being the cheapest that I've seen at 80k), and i90 items tend to be about 40k each (summoning bells being the cheapest at 30k. Even with the 70%, i90s are cheaper. On my server. If your server has different prices, then do things accordingly. I gave a link to the spreadsheet I'm using to calculate costs. You can use it with your server's prices and see what's best.