Desynthesis Endgame Guide

[Nyalia]

So, looking at that HW->SB gap, desynths at 10 dSkill above the rlvl gives about 0.60 exp (for GSM). Success rate is 80% at dSkill = rlvl, going up about 3.2% per dSkill above the rlvl and hitting 100% at 7 dSkill above the rlvl (99.2% at 6 above). dSkill gains start dropping off at that point, but I don't have enough data yet to say how fast. There are items at that point every 25 rlvls (180 -> 205 -> 230 -> 255). Chance at 15 dSkill below the rlvl should be 56% (35*1.6). Chance at 10 dSkill below the rlvl should be 64% (40*1.6). I don't have enough data for the exp gains at these points though.

The best point to switch to the next tier of gear in that gap appears to be between 10 and 15 dSkill above the rlvl. I'm leaning toward 15, but I could easily be wrong. Of course, this also depends on how you play FFXIV - if you do tons of PvP, obviously it's better to stick with the 205 pvp gear longer before switching to the 230 poetics gear. If you don't much care for PvP, you'd want to switch sooner. Also, prices differ on PvP gear based on the item type, while all poetics gear is the same price (I think? I could be wrong there, can't check right now). So:

Generic recommendations for all classes:

• dSkill 165 - 195 = i180 PvP gear
• dSkill 190 - 220 = i205 PvP gear
• dSkill 215 - 245 = i230 Poetics gear
• dSkill 240 - 270 = r255 crafted gear (which can be bought from vendors/MB)

Does that sound wrong to anyone? My suggestions may be biased/informed by the fact that I'm leveling the classes that have the cheapest item types in the game (LTW - belts, GSM - accessories). Other classes have more expensive wolf mark options, but theoretically gain exp faster with the 4.0 changes to desynth. ARM seems to have a nice boost over LTW/GSM, for instance, from what others have posted. I don't know about the really hard ones to level (CRP/ALC).

Oh, and as a total sidenote, because Zelkova logs are used to make Zelkova lumber for SBing by people going for VI craft materia, people are practically giving the lumber away on Faerie. Varnish is cheap to make too (MB prices on Faerie at least are crazy for it, but it takes like no time at all to gather the mats personally). This makes Zelkova Rings amazing for CRP desynth from dSkill ~275 through ~310. You can craft the rings for like, under 1,000 gil each, and that keeps slowly dropping. It's insane, especially if CRP has a large exp bonus for having a smaller selection of desynthable items.

[Lapiforsa]

Nyalia, thank u so much for this guide/thread! last guide i read was only level 110 so are here any lists for (all) crafters level 110 til ... ? I dont have any ideas about what changed after that ^^'

[dracklor]

Only thing to mention is the old gathering blue scrip gear (red scrip now) is super cheap and could be an alternative for those who don't like PVP.

[KumiNeko]

whats new cap now 324?

[Nyalia]

whats new cap now 324?

It's 320 per class, 980 total across all classes. So, you can still do the usual three classes at max with a bit left over.

Only thing to mention is the old gathering blue scrip gear (red scrip now) is super cheap and could be an alternative for those who don't like PVP.

Oh, good idea! Thank you. I hadn't thought to look at that gear.

If I get a chance this weekend, which I should, I'll investigate all the easy ways to level off non-crafted gear. Hopefully after that, I can supplement it with crafted gear, but that takes a lot longer since I need to check out the markets and such to find what's actually affordable. The prices of things are all weird due to people quicksynthing to SB the i290 crafter gear and then dumping the level 68 mats on the MB for almost nothing. Meanwhile, the early mats are still pretty expensive (especially Gagana Leather, on my server at least, since that can be used to level LTW super fast via leves).

Nyalia, thank u so much for this guide/thread! last guide i read was only level 110 so are here any lists for (all) crafters level 110 til ... ? I dont have any ideas about what changed after that ^^'

Sorry it's so out of date! I'm really hoping to have the time to update the guide this weekend with far better recommendations for dealing with things like the gap between RR and HW (where you are) and between HW and SB (where I am).

[Ziggyzapps]

The results of desynthing 100 serge aprons if anyone is interested;

315-316 desynth skill
100 serge aprons = 1366200 gil

24 nq/5 hq duriums 200k
31 nq/4 hq serge cloths 1.4 mil at 40k each
16 nq/5 hq serge threads 280k
4 clear demi 20k
37 fieldcraft 2 demi 80k
139 lightning crystals 70k
142 wind crystals 70k

Value of mats = 2.12 mil gil
Total profit = 753800

Duno if there is something better for weaver to desynth, aprons seems best though.

[Rohirrim]

Generic recommendations for all classes:

• dSkill 165 - 195 = i180 PvP gear
• dSkill 190 - 220 = i205 PvP gear
• dSkill 215 - 245 = i230 Poetics gear
• dSkill 240 - 270 = r255 crafted gear (which can be bought from vendors/MB)

I think is better save the wolf marks for the 205ilvl items and use red scrips (crafter / gatherer) for the 180. Except if you like grind pvp more than crflafting but in sb is easy to farm red scrips especialy if you have carpenter. (Pine spinninh wheel for example, when it appears, is extremely easy to get tons of red scripts)

[Mepplin]

By the way - ilvl 170 and 200 stuff can be bought for hunt tokens and the costs arent too terrible. (Ishgard)
Ilvl 170:
cheapest weapon -> 50 tokens
belts -> 25 tokens
Ilvl 200:
cheapest weapon -> 100 tokens
belts -> 55 tokens

And I agree on red scripts! (Though I prefer gathering for that -> no cost except for teleport)
Too bad tools need that much of those things to upgrade to 200...

[Waise]

Generic recommendations for all classes:

• dSkill 165 - 195 = i180 PvP gear
• dSkill 190 - 220 = i205 PvP gear
• dSkill 215 - 245 = i230 Poetics gear
• dSkill 240 - 270 = r255 crafted gear (which can be bought from vendors/MB)

Anyone have any tips for Blacksmith since i230 Poetic gear isn't available

[Mepplin]

Anyone have any tips for Blacksmith since i230 Poetic gear isn't available

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It is available. Talk to Bertana - look for the materials there. You get all the tokens from Hismena which is to her left.