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    Quote Originally Posted by Rath View Post
    At 179dSkill the new relic items gives .10 skillup and I have obtained FC3 so far from 2 attempts. Seems like they will be good once the mats costs settle down.
    but the market boards told me those take 1.5 million gil worth of work to make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rath View Post
    At 179dSkill the new relic items gives .10 skillup and I have obtained FC3 so far from 2 attempts. Seems like they will be good once the mats costs settle down.
    Now that relic mania's calmed down a little, I gave it a shot in hopes of skimping on ingredients. Alas, it would appear these will only give you clear/fieldcraft demimateria I-III.
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    Just want to say thanks for this guide and thanks for continuing to update it. I refer back to it often and keep it bookmarked. <3
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    Neri Feralheart
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    Btw, can anyone tell me your success rates on the Diadem loot? My chances with the 150 stuff were always 100% at 180 dSkill so I can't get data there, and I haven't actually gotten an i210 item I could desynth yet (I don't really run stuff). But, I checked my desynth chance on an i180 LTW-desynthable chestpiece from the Diadem that I happened to have, and it was 75.00% at 180 dSkill. I expected 50%. The only way it would be 75.00% is if it was r180 with a 50% bonus (what I've been calling {W}=15 in my equations), or if it behaved as if it had 5 materia in it. It did have five stats on it, but I have no idea if that matters. Both makes sense to me though - aetherial items having a flat 50% boost to desynth, and aetherial items acting as if they have materia already melded into them.

    I never paid attention to aetherial melding rates before. Until now, aetherial equipment was all so low level that there were significantly easier ways to blaze past them.
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    But, I checked my desynth chance on an i180 LTW-desynthable chestpiece from the Diadem that I happened to have, and it was 75.00% at 180 dSkill. I expected 50%. The only way it would be 75.00% is if it was r180 with a 50% bonus (what I've been calling {W}=15 in my equations), or if it behaved as if it had 5 materia in it. It did have five stats on it, but I have no idea if that matters. Both makes sense to me though - aetherial items having a flat 50% boost to desynth, and aetherial items acting as if they have materia already melded into them.
    I don't know on diadem items, but on 11/10 I noticed a huge bonus for at-level desynth. The jump from 179.68 to 180 desynth on upgraded law (180) was from 49% success to 70% success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raela View Post
    I don't know on diadem items, but on 11/10 I noticed a huge bonus for at-level desynth. The jump from 179.68 to 180 desynth on upgraded law (180) was from 49% success to 70% success.
    Are you certain you weren't comparing upgraded Law to unupgraded Law? Upgraded Law is 49% at 179. Unupgraded Law is 70% at 180.
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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    Apparently I forgot to rewrite the rest of my post somehow. Oops, so I'll start again:

    With Yasha at 70% and being 10 ilvls higher than Valerian, which is at 85% now, it makes sense to me that Valerian was 70% pre-3.1 unless it's some grand coincidence. That's possible, but in any case, now Valerian is definitely 85%, Yasha is 70%, Asuran is 50%, and 3.1 Dungeon Gear is 45%.
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    Last edited by Teiren; 12-23-2015 at 11:45 AM.

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    Excellent guide !
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    Il s'agit juste d'un reroll

    Voici une de mes suggestions qui peut être pratique :
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/274196-Suggestion-Modification-de-la-limite-d-affichage?p=3606975#post3606975



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    I'm just now getting all the materials crafted for the Anima weapon trade items, and out of curiousity I took a look at HQ Moogle Miniature in the Desynthesis window. At 180 GSM skill, it showed an 85% Success Chance, identical to Valerian gear. All of them were HQ, so I can't say if that has an effect or not.
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    I was attempting get some FC1 with my GSM, to help a newer crafter with levelling by making a Dodore Belt. I have not done this since before 3.1 but I remembered it was about a stack Brass Ingots and Rag Wetstones to produce 10 FC1. Assuming consumption of all material returns too.

    My memory has been re-inforced by great work of this thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    GSM: Brass Ring of Crafting [r20] (Yield: 0.1) - Crafted: 275; Vendor: 416 (gil/demimateria: 2,750/4,160) (Credit: Mathild Greyashe of Faerie)
    Unfortunately, after 141 desynths, I have 6 FC1 and 8 Clear.
    Is the formula still pretty much 15% chance of demateria, then split in half between FC and Clear?
    My results are closer to 10% dematermia and equal split between FC and Clear remains.
    Just bad RNG or have the demateria rates changed?
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