Desynthesis Endgame Guide

[Teiren]

I didn't collect nearly as much data as I wanted to because I played Tree of Savior so much, but here's what I collected the past week or so:

All items are the ilvl 160 dungeon gear, and I did not use any Careful Desynthesis buffs.

Blacksmith:

173 Skill, 74.50% Success Rate http://i.imgur.com/Dn0ODpc.png
1. 1 Titanium Ingot, 1 Fire and 1 Earth Cluster, +0.16 Skill http://i.imgur.com/jw2ZKrg.png
2. 1 Titanium Ingot, 1 Fire and 2 Earth Clusters, +0.17 Skill http://i.imgur.com/5ZzcMDD.png

174 Skill, 76.00% Success Rate http://i.imgur.com/GlBOGvx.png
1. 1 Battlecraft III, 1 Fire and 1 Earth Cluster, +0.14 Skill http://i.imgur.com/qYpyP6J.png
2. 2 Battlecraft III, 2 Fire and 1 Earth Clusters, +0.09 Skill http://i.imgur.com/kbwJbIp.png
3. 1 Titanium Ingot, 2 Fire and 1 Earth Clusters, +0.10 Skill http://i.imgur.com/YlIRtWt.png

Leatherworker:

176 Skill, 79.00% Success Rate http://i.imgur.com/Ymdvkmm.png
1. 1 Dragon Leather, 2 Earth and 2 Wind Clusters, +0.08 Skill http://i.imgur.com/nEHqd7S.png
2. 1 Amphiptere Leather, 1 Earth and 2 Wind Clusters, +0.06 Skill http://i.imgur.com/fsmGOvU.png
3. 1 Amphiptere Leather, 2 Earth and 2 Wind Clusters, +0.10 Skill http://i.imgur.com/Hh8WVok.png

Also, I saved a bunch of gear that I replaced on alt Jobs just in case they made it desynthesizable in the future, so I'll be able to try out desynthesizing some Yasha and Asuran gear right away. I'll make sure to use both Careful Desynthesis buffs for them.

[raela]

I'll try to update this with the new formula when 3.1 hits, but I'm now a mother, so there's much, much less time to play, which means less time to collect data myself. If people could post their desynth level (BEFORE the desynth), their exact chance of success, any bonuses (tinker's calm, bacon broth, melded materia), the name of the item (and rlvl if you know it), and the exp gained (optional), I'll recreate the formulas and explain what's changed in the guide.

So, a template:
- dSkill:
- Item: (r#)
- Success: (Careful: , Melds: )
- Exp:
- Items:

I'm currently at ~175 on WVR and ~178 on GSM.. so when servers come up, I'll burn some i180 gear and come back with some numbers. Fingers crossed the difficulty easing will mean I don't explode all my gear.

EDIT: info as promised.. was off on my desyn levels. huge jump once you cap:

- dSkill: 176.42
- Item: Asuran Hachigan of Scouting (i180)
- Success: 46% (no buffs)
- Exp: 0.91
- Items: Aurum Regis Nugget

- dSkill: 177.33
- Item: Asuran Hachigan of Healing (i180)
- Success: 47% (no buffs)
- Exp: 0.90
- Items: 2x Battlecraft Demimateria III

- dSkill: 171.65
- Item: Asuran Haama of Healing (i180)
- Success: 41% (no buffs)
- Exp: 0.72
- Items: Chemical Felt

- dSkill: 172.37
- Item: Asuran Kawa-obi of Healing (i180)
- Success: 42% (no buffs)
- Exp: 0.91
- Items: Hallowed Ramie Cloth

- dSkill: 178.23
- Item: Asuran Earring of Slaying (i180)
- Success: 48% (no buffs)
- Exp: 0.91
- Items: Hardsilver Ingot

- dSkill: 179.14
- Item: Asuran Earring of Aiming (i180)
- Success: 49% (no buffs)
- Exp: 0.54
- Items: Hardsilver Ingot

- dSkill: 179.68
- Item: Asuran Ring of Fending (i180)
- Success: 49% (no buffs)
- Exp: 0.32
- Items: Hardsilver Ingot

- dSkill: 180.00
- Item: Asuran Ring of Aiming (i180)
- Success: 70% (no buffs)
- Exp: none
- Items: exploded

[Keaira21]

Thought I'd chime in with my lowbie desynth data to help.

GSM
- dSkill: 76.55
- Item: (r#) Artisan's Glasses
- Success: 96%
- Exp: .65 increase
- Items: Rose Gold Nugget, 2 Wind Crystal, Fire Crystal

GSM
- dSkill: 77.11
- Item: (r#) Artisan's Glasses
- Success: 96%
- Exp: .63 increase
- Items: Mastercraft Demimateria, Wind Crystal, Fire Crystal

GSM
- dSkill: 77.93
- Item: (r#) Artisan's Glasses
- Success: 96%
- Exp: .97 increase
- Items: HQ Rose Gold Nugget, Wind Crystal, Fire Crystal

[Bendriana_Doomhuggles]

I'm currently looking for a cheap source of FC3 and have WVR/GSM/CUL. Garlean Steel Joints have rarely drop low enough in price on my server and are a pain to farm so I had high hopes for the two new GSM glasses added in this patch. I made 25 of each and got about the same results, so I'll just combine my numbers.

50 desynths for 19 silver ingot, 16 crystal glass, 7 FC3. So pretty close to 15% like most 2 star things.

I feel like if this took clusters instead of a ton of shards, this would be pretty good. CRP might do ok with Cob Inner wall if bamboo is cheap. Also of note, the artistan/forager turnins got reduced by quite a bit. Needles take 2 silver brocade down from 8, for example. AFAIK though the FC3 yield isn't great since you're getting MCD too but it's been a while.

[Immut]

So far i180 law and diadem gear ain't giving me jack shit interesting. Adamantite, chimerical felt, that sort of thing. Law does give BCIII obviously. Haven't managed to successfully desynth a behemoth king shield yet.

[Caitlyn]

I dont know if its stated before, but there is very easy and cheap way to get trough 100-120 using the old soldery gear. You can get these since 3.1 in huge numbers by buying them with your old Allied Seals.

For example:
Weathered Noct Plate Belt 300 → 20 (ARM)
Weathered Gloam Earrings 300 → 20 (GSM)

[Teiren]

Edit: Copying Blacksmithing data here so it's all in one post.

Well, I didn't mean to be away from the game for so long, but I've come back with a good deal of data!

After-Post Conclusions:
Each point of Careful Desynthesis is always +2.50% Success Chance, the same as before. Each point increase of Desynthesis skill varies from +1% to +2%, more than before. I'm leaving it up to Nyalia to determine exactly how it all relates to recipe level. Item gain is exactly the same among all item levels 160+ except for a couple more clusters.

The formatting will roughly be like a data table where the order of things will be like so:
Name (Valerian, Yasha, Asuran, or SMAPS), Success Chance % ((+0/1/2/4/5/6) refers to +Careful Desynthesis)
1. Skill Gain, Items Acquired -These are on a second line as a numbered list because these are usually the only things that change. However, there will be some changes when I gain skill in Leatherworker and lose & regain Tinker's Calm at one point.

Some reference data I want to leave here:
Valerian is ilvl 160, Yasha is 170, Asuran is 180, SMAPS is 185.
SMAPS refers to the new 3.1 dungeons. I'm just using a silly term for better spacing for readability.
180 GSM meant 70% Success Chance on Valerian gear pre-3.1, is now 85% in 3.1 without any Careful Desynthesis. I foolishly didn't save the Valerian accessories to use with Careful Desynthesis.
I guarantee this data is correct. It would have been way too tedious and time-consuming to take, upload, and link 30something screenshots. I'm aware that my success chances on Valerian/Yasha/Asuran & SMAPS gear go up by 1.5%/2%/1% respectively per skill level, but that's really what it is.

Leatherworker, 176.88 Skill:
Valerian, 79.00% (+0)/94.00% (+6)
1. +.19 Skill, 1 Amphiptere leather, 1 Earth/1 Wind Cluster
177 Skill, 95.50% (+6)
2. +.15 Skill, 1 Clear III, 2 Earth/1 Wind Cluster

Yasha, 62.00% (+0)/77.00% (+6)
177 Skill, 79.00% (+6)

1. +.38 Skill, 1 Dragon Leather, 2 Earth/1 Wind Cluster
2. +.33 Skill, 1 Dragon Leather, 2 Earth/1 Wind Cluster
3. +.34 Skill, 1 Dragon Leather, 1 Earth/2 Wind Cluster

Asuran, 46.00% (+0)/61.00% (+6)
178 Skill, 63.00% (+6)
+.85 Skill, 1 Amphiptere Leather, 3 Earth/2 Wind Cluster

SMAPS, 41.00% (+0)/56.00% (+6)
179 Skill, 49.00% (+2)/59.00% (+6)
+.84 Skill, 1 Dragon Leather, 3 Earth/1 Wind Cluster


Blacksmith, 174.43 Skill:
Onikiri (Yasha), 58.00% (+0)/73.00% (+6)
1. +.47 Skill, 1 Clear III, 1 Fire/2 Earth Clusters
2. +.57 Skill, 1 Titanium Ingot, 1 Fire/2 Earth Clusters
175 Skill, 75.00% (+6)
3. +.67 Skill, 1 Titanium Ingot, 2 Fire/2 Earth Clusters
176 Skill, 77.00% (+6)
4. +.63 Skill, 1 Titanium Ingot, 1 Fire/2 Earth Clusters
5. +.49 Skill, 1 Titanium Ingot, 2 Fire/2 Earth Clusters


Goldsmith, 180.00 Skill:
Valerian, 85.00% (+0), 70.00% (+0, Pre-3.1, Might be wrong)

Yasha, 70.00% (+0)/85.00% (+6)

1. 1 HQ Hardsilver Ingot, 2 Wind/1 Fire Cluster
2. 1 Hardsilver Ingot, 1 Wind/2 Fire Cluster
3. 1 Hardsilver Ingot, 1 Wind/2 Fire Cluster
4. 1 Hardsilver Ingot, 1 Wind/2 Fire Cluster

Asuran, 50.00% (+0)/65.00% (+6)

1. 1 Hardsilver Ingot, 1 Wind/2 Fire Cluster
2. 1 Hardsilver Ingot, 3 Wind/3 Fire Cluster

SMAPS, 45.00% (+0)/60.00% (+6)

1. 1 Aurum Regis Nugget, 3 Wind/1 Fire Cluster
2. 1 Hardsilver Ingot, 3 Wind/2 Fire Cluster
3. 1 Clear III, 3 Wind/3 Fire Cluster
4. 1 Hardsilver Ingot, 3 Wind/1 Fire Cluster

[Iagainsti]

Ciming in on GSM 180 skill, Just broke 18 pieces of 170 law gear and received the same Hardsilver Ingots, Aurum Nuggets and Clusters as i160. Only difference is the BC/Clear IIIs. Currently Hoarding i185 accessories for the next big break. will update my findings when I get most of all 28 pieces.

[Teiren]

One more data post, and that'll be it from me. Mostly copying the same format as before. I'm not going to list Leatherworker and Goldsmith because it's not like anything will have magically changed from last time, and now Blacksmith is caught up to where Leatherworker started in 3.1 so there's no need to continue after this. Across all 3 skills overall, I think I noticed more Battlecraft & Clear III from Yasha level and up, rate of which possibly going up with ilvl.

Blacksmith, 174.43 Skill:
Onikiri (Yasha), 58.00% (+0)/60.50% (+1)/63.00% (+2)73.00% (+6)
1. +.47 Skill, 1 Clear III, 1 Fire/2 Earth Clusters
2. +.57 Skill, 1 Titanium Ingot, 1 Fire/2 Earth Clusters
175 Skill, 75.00% (+6)
3. +.67 Skill, 1 Titanium Ingot, 2 Fire/2 Earth Clusters
176 Skill, 77.00% (+6)
4. +.63 Skill, 1 Titanium Ingot, 1 Fire/2 Earth Clusters
5. +.49 Skill, 1 Titanium Ingot, 2 Fire/2 Earth Clusters

[Keaira21]

Got some more interesting information for my Weaver this time.

- dSkill: 104.09
- Item: (r#) Weathered Daystar Robe
- Success: 81.20% (no buffs)
- Exp: 0.72
- Items: Vanya Silk, Lightning Cluster, Wind Cluster

- dSkill: 104.81
- Item: (r#) Weathered DayStar Robe
- Success: 81.20% (no buffs)
- Exp: 0.66
- Items: 2x Battlecraft III Demimateria, Lightning Cluster, Wind Cluster

- dSkill: 105.47
- Item: (r#) Weathered DayStar Robe
- Success: 84.00% (no buffs)
- Exp: .53
- Items: Vanya Silk, Lightning Cluster, Wind Cluster

- dSkill: 106.00
- Item: (r#) Weathered DayStar Robe
- Success: 86.80% (no buffs)
- Exp: Botched

- dSkill: 106.00
- Item: (r#) Weathered DayStar Robe
- Success: 86.80% (no buffs)
- Exp: .72
- Items: Vanya Silk, Lightning Cluster, Wind Cluster