Desynthesis Endgame Guide

[Arcticharm]

Good to hear they weren't supposed to drop only sand and gold coins.

Bad to hear this after I desynthed my stockpile into sand and gold coins.

YOSHIDAAAAAAAAAAA!

I guess we're back to 50/50 chances on sky chasers and praying for platinum coins

[Nyalia]

I honestly have no idea why you'd get lower skill when others have reported getting the correct amount from the same fish... I'd need to find someone else with a CUL Desynth in the right area to test? Maybe the fish's ilvl and rlvl are totally different?

[Nyalia]

So, what changed? Was there any change to rlvl? Is there anything in the guide that is now inaccurate and needs to be updated? I think those are all 60* fish, which were r180. Were they supposed to be r160 or something?

[Zorlinta]

Those 60* fish keep being r180, with same 50% sucess at max 180 desynth. It seems were reduced the probability to get gold from them. Mostly now just fine sand and grade6 dark matter.

[Aegir]

For BSM I'd recommend Hardsilver Texture Hammer over the Titanium Scythe. Components: 2 hardsilver nuggets, 1 dark chestnut lumber, 1 star ruby (can use ventures exclusively). I used this until 150.
For ARM Hardsilver Alembic are a pretty easy craftable replacement for the 120-135 bracket.

[Snugglebutt]

Don't know if anyone else has mentioned it but culinarians can also desynth NPC bought i70 aged decanters from silver bazaar at 3k gil each. I think they only give around 0.02 at around cul desynth lvl 75+ though so probably not worth it. I read it is prob worth when hit cul desynth lvl 90 start desynthing icepicks from CWH.

[Nyalia]

For BSM I'd recommend Hardsilver Texture Hammer over the Titanium Scythe. Components: 2 hardsilver nuggets, 1 dark chestnut lumber, 1 star ruby (can use ventures exclusively). I used this until 150.
For ARM Hardsilver Alembic are a pretty easy craftable replacement for the 120-135 bracket.

Thanks for the advice! But, why are Hardsilver Texture Hammers easier than Titanium Scythes? Titanium Scythes are 1 hardsilver nugget, 1 dark chestnut branch, and 1 cloud mica whetstone. I don't have a MIN retainer, but the branches are straight harvests whereas the lumber takes 5x logs, and the cloud mica whetstones take fewer cloud mica than the nuggets take hardsilver sand. Plus, the hammers have an extra ingredient, the star rubies, which require basilisk whetstones too, which are crafted from basilisk eggs. I'd think the hammers would be harder to craft because they have so many more sub-components and take a good deal more crystals. On top of all that, the texture hammers are r136 instead of the scythes at r139, so they won't get you as far as fast, and of the five mats for the scythes, two can be bought at vendors, vs the five mats for the hammer of which none can be bought at vendors:

Hardsilver Texture Hammer: 10 Hardsilver Sand (MIN), 2 Silver Ore (MIN), 1 Basilisk Egg (MIN), 3 raw star ruby (MIN), 5 Dark Chestnut Log (BTN), 16 Wind Crystal, 5 Wind Shard, 4 Fire Crystal, 4 Earth Crystal, 5 material synths + final synth, r136

Titanium Scythe: 1 Iron Ore (Vendor), 1 Grenade Ash (Vendor), 5 Titanium Ore (MIN), 3 Cloud Mica (MIN), 1 Dark Chestnut Branch (BTN), 5 Wind Crystal, 9 Fire Crystal, 4 Earth Crystal, 2 material synths + final synth, r139

I just fail to see the benefit there...

Also, Hardsilver Alembic is also a bunch of synths for an r133 item that takes 7 material synths plus the final synth and a whole host of mats, vs the Titanium Plate Belt of ... which, while only r130, is far fewer materials. If you want to craft instead of buy, while the titanium belt won't get you as far, it seems much better for the initial bit, and then you're probably ready to skip the alembic and move on to higher ilvl items. Really though, the belts are going to cost less to buy than the materials for the hardsilver alembic will be worth, at least on my server, between the 2x hardsilver nuggets and 2x titanium nuggets. But, if 4x nuggets, 27x crystals, 5x shards, and 8x synths worth of your time are cheaper for you than just buying the r139 belt for 11k, I guess it's a way to advance after the r130 belt isn't getting you enough exp?

Hardsilver Alembic: 10 Titanium Sand, 2 Grenade Ash, 2 Iron Ore, 2 Silver Ore, 10 Hardsilver Sand, 1 Basilisk Egg, 1 Raw Larimar, 5 Wind Shards, 12 Wind Crystals, 8 Fire Crystals, 4 Ice Crystals, 3 Earth Crystals, 7 material synths + final synth, r133

Titanium Plate Belt of ...: 10 Titanium Sand, 2 Grenade Ash, 2 Iron Ore, 3 Dhalmel Hide, 1 Dark Chestnut Log, 8 Fire Crystal, 7 Earth Crystal, 4 Ice Crystal, 3 material synths + final synth, r130

Don't know if anyone else has mentioned it but culinarians can also desynth NPC bought i70 aged decanters from silver bazaar at 3k gil each. I think they only give around 0.02 at around cul desynth lvl 75+ though so probably not worth it. I read it is prob worth when hit cul desynth lvl 90 start desynthing icepicks from CWH.

Those are r55, and they are in the guide.

[Shkun]

Nyalia, the dungeons drops ex roulette for GSM can give either bc3, clear demimateria 3, hardsilver ingot or Aurum regis nugget.
For LTW drops, it's dragon leather and amphiptere leather. At 160 to 170 dskill you get between 0.20 to 0.45 dskill. I'll do some more and post back

[Nyalia]

Nyalia, the dungeons drops ex roulette for GSM can give either bc3, clear demimateria 3, hardsilver ingot or Aurum regis nugget.
For LTW drops, it's dragon leather and amphiptere leather. At 160 to 170 dskill you get between 0.20 to 0.45 dskill. I'll do some more and post back

I could swear I've gotten BC2s from them as well, but yeah, I actually just found out last night that they can give BC3s and haven't had a chance to update the guide. Thanks for the confirmation!

At dSKill 160, my math suggests you should average 0.40 skill. At dSkill 165, you should average 0.35 skill. At dSkill 170, you should average 0.30 skill. So, your data is right on point with my exp chart in the OP! Isn't the variance crazy though? Last night, I got 0.36 and 0.70 from two back-to-back desynths of the same rlvl equipment piece (without leveling inbetween).

[Shkun]

I could swear I've gotten BC2s from them as well, but yeah, I actually just found out last night that they can give BC3s and haven't had a chance to update the guide. Thanks for the confirmation!

At dSKill 160, my math suggests you should average 0.40 skill. At dSkill 165, you should average 0.35 skill. At dSkill 170, you should average 0.30 skill. So, your data is right on point with my exp chart in the OP! Isn't the variance crazy though? Last night, I got 0.36 and 0.70 from two back-to-back desynths of the same rlvl equipment piece (without leveling inbetween).

No problem, you're right you can get BC2S. Out of 30 desyn, I only seen one. I was pretty excited to see that I got 8 BC3S out of 30 and not BC2S.