Desynthesis Endgame Guide

[dracklor]

Only thing to mention is the old gathering blue scrip gear (red scrip now) is super cheap and could be an alternative for those who don't like PVP.

[Rohirrim]

Generic recommendations for all classes:

• dSkill 165 - 195 = i180 PvP gear
• dSkill 190 - 220 = i205 PvP gear
• dSkill 215 - 245 = i230 Poetics gear
• dSkill 240 - 270 = r255 crafted gear (which can be bought from vendors/MB)

I think is better save the wolf marks for the 205ilvl items and use red scrips (crafter / gatherer) for the 180. Except if you like grind pvp more than crflafting but in sb is easy to farm red scrips especialy if you have carpenter. (Pine spinninh wheel for example, when it appears, is extremely easy to get tons of red scripts)

[Keldion]

So, looking at that HW->SB gap, desynths at 10 dSkill above the rlvl gives about 0.60 exp (for GSM). Success rate is 80% at dSkill = rlvl, going up about 3.2% per dSkill above the rlvl and hitting 100% at 7 dSkill above the rlvl (99.2% at 6 above). dSkill gains start dropping off at that point, but I don't have enough data yet to say how fast. There are items at that point every 25 rlvls (180 -> 205 -> 230 -> 255). Chance at 15 dSkill below the rlvl should be 56% (35*1.6). Chance at 10 dSkill below the rlvl should be 64% (40*1.6). I don't have enough data for the exp gains at these points though.

I'm working to gather information on the exact desynth chances in the current patch iteration, and so far have observed the following.

dSkill = rlvl - 43 : 9.8%
dSkill = rlvl - 20 : 42.0
dSkill = rlvl - 19 : 43.4
dSkill = rlvl - 18 : 44.8
dSkill = rlvl - 7 : 60.2

The trend appears to weigh each full point of dSkill at 1.4% until (rlvl -5), when I expect the formula to leap from 63 to 80%.
With exactly 279 LTW desynthesis skill, the chance of success to desynth a Tigerskin Belt of Gathering (rlvl 279) is 70%. Thus, the base chance of success likely depends on the item's rlvl.

At some point, careful desynthesis and materia bonuses were modified. Each point of careful desynthesis (from Tinker's Calm and Bacon Broth) raises the success chance by 3.5%, while every melded materia raises your success rate by 7%.

[Sibula]

I'm working to gather information on the exact desynth chances in the current patch iteration

I've been working on the desynth chances too. From collecting data since the launch of Stormblood I've figured that apparently bonus chance per meld, desynth chance when dskill=rlvl, and rate of increase in chance depend on item rlvl. The amount of increase per dskill seems to double when dskill>rlvl. Not sure about any of the formulas behind these.

Some data I've collected so far (I'm horrible at writing and spreadsheets):
My spreadsheet

[Ceallach]

So uh, not to nag, but will the Stormblood part of this guide be done any time soon?

[Shadygrove]

So uh, not to nag, but will the Stormblood part of this guide be done any time soon?

Seeing as a fair bit of SB info has been haphazardly added to this thread, yet not incorporated to the front page dropdowns, I would guess not.

[Lapiforsa]

Nyalia, thank u so much for this guide/thread! last guide i read was only level 110 so are here any lists for (all) crafters level 110 til ... ? I dont have any ideas about what changed after that ^^'

[KumiNeko]

whats new cap now 324?

[Nyalia]

whats new cap now 324?

It's 320 per class, 980 total across all classes. So, you can still do the usual three classes at max with a bit left over.

Only thing to mention is the old gathering blue scrip gear (red scrip now) is super cheap and could be an alternative for those who don't like PVP.

Oh, good idea! Thank you. I hadn't thought to look at that gear.

If I get a chance this weekend, which I should, I'll investigate all the easy ways to level off non-crafted gear. Hopefully after that, I can supplement it with crafted gear, but that takes a lot longer since I need to check out the markets and such to find what's actually affordable. The prices of things are all weird due to people quicksynthing to SB the i290 crafter gear and then dumping the level 68 mats on the MB for almost nothing. Meanwhile, the early mats are still pretty expensive (especially Gagana Leather, on my server at least, since that can be used to level LTW super fast via leves).

Nyalia, thank u so much for this guide/thread! last guide i read was only level 110 so are here any lists for (all) crafters level 110 til ... ? I dont have any ideas about what changed after that ^^'

Sorry it's so out of date! I'm really hoping to have the time to update the guide this weekend with far better recommendations for dealing with things like the gap between RR and HW (where you are) and between HW and SB (where I am).

[Ziggyzapps]

The results of desynthing 100 serge aprons if anyone is interested;

315-316 desynth skill
100 serge aprons = 1366200 gil

24 nq/5 hq duriums 200k
31 nq/4 hq serge cloths 1.4 mil at 40k each
16 nq/5 hq serge threads 280k
4 clear demi 20k
37 fieldcraft 2 demi 80k
139 lightning crystals 70k
142 wind crystals 70k

Value of mats = 2.12 mil gil
Total profit = 753800

Duno if there is something better for weaver to desynth, aprons seems best though.