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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    That's fine. I think the 1-100 stuff is probably fine. Probably the only thing worth adding is that you can use Allied Seals to buy the old ilvl 100 stuff for very little, which makes it very good for leveling desynth, even relatively early. I think I started around 80. The accessories are like 25 seals and come in at least GSM, WVR, and LTW flavors, so even if you fail a bunch, it hardly matters. Poetics and Centurio Seals are also generally helpful from like 160-260. It's not going to be as fast as some people probably want, but I think it's the most frugal way, while also still being effective.
    Thank you! That sounds like sound advice, and I'll include it in the RR->HW gap advice. The HW->SB gap is so easily passed with Wolf Marks though. Getting 1.00 points from a 100% chance desynth is really, really nice, especially if you're running Frontlines Roulette every day for those 40 Creation tomes. Takes patience, but it's working great for me and I'm on my second class doing it (GSM). Of course, it's better for some classes than others (LTW/GSM being the best, ARM being next best because shields, then WVR/BSM, then ALC/CRP who always suffer).

    The 1-100 stuff should at least be edited for the new exp and success formulas. The new success formula is so generous! It's a 60% bonus from at least ~160 to ~245, and still a 50% bonus at 260. The bonus means that at dSkill = rlvl, you have an 80% chance at r160-r245 where before it was a 50% chance. Throw in Tinker's Bacon, and you have a 95% chance. Also, you gain about ~0.9 from the desynths at dSkill = rlvl, so that's nice too. I still don't have the new success rate and exp formulas completely nailed down, but this implies that the bonus will extend through the endgame this time.

    Again, I could really use a few datapoints if anyone's willing to help out, especially in the 1-150 range! My classes are all too close together to get a good read on the overall formula.
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zied View Post
    Why can't we desynth verity/lakshmi gear? Hope they will allow us to in 4.1
    you can never desynth the most recent gear. like you say they will most likely allow it in 4.1, if not 4.2 when a new tomestone currency is introduced.
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    So not to hijack the discussion, but has anybody found a use for Cul desynth? It was basically useless in HW and I haven't found anything so far in SB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannylite978 View Post
    So not to hijack the discussion, but has anybody found a use for Cul desynth? It was basically useless in HW and I haven't found anything so far in SB.
    Check here for specifics on what you can get, but the only items from 4.0 that at least sort of have value are grade VI combat materia, which are likely infinitely easier to get via other methods (like tanking leveling roulettes). So, in other words, not really. =\
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    Check here for specifics on what you can get, but the only items from 4.0 that at least sort of have value are grade VI combat materia, which are likely infinitely easier to get via other methods (like tanking leveling roulettes). So, in other words, not really. =\
    Thanks for the link. Sigh I think I'll retrain cup desynth back to 0 and level Leather instead. Just watch as soon as I do that Somebody will find a new swimsuit they got from SB fish
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannylite978 View Post
    Thanks for the link. Sigh I think I'll retrain cup desynth back to 0 and level Leather instead. Just watch as soon as I do that Somebody will find a new swimsuit they got from SB fish
    Considering most fish are tradeable, a good idea would be to get an alt's cul to 30 to desynth fish on them instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by illukar View Post
    Thank you for this guide. I have a query - I recently returned to the game after playing 1.0 and 2.0. I've unlocked both Heavensward and the latest expansion, but I'm finding that I can only desynthesise items that belong to the original game, nothing from either expansion. [The item descriptions say they are desynthesisable, and they come up in the desynthesis dialogue box, but a big red message of "This item cannot be desynthesized" is shown at the item screen (for everything not in the original game)].

    Have I missed a second set of quests to unlock the Heavensward items?
    It's because you're desynth level is too low
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    Quote Originally Posted by illukar View Post
    Thank you for this guide. I have a query - I recently returned to the game after playing 1.0 and 2.0. I've unlocked both Heavensward and the latest expansion, but I'm finding that I can only desynthesise items that belong to the original game, nothing from either expansion. [The item descriptions say they are desynthesisable, and they come up in the desynthesis dialogue box, but a big red message of "This item cannot be desynthesized" is shown at the item screen (for everything not in the original game)].

    Have I missed a second set of quests to unlock the Heavensward items?
    It's because your desynth level is too low
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    Thanks all - I'll keep levelling up - I was at 70 (culinarian) and couldn't understand why I wasn't able to do anything with the fish I was catching.
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    http://xivdb.com is a good reference, that lists the ilvl of a specific fish.

    Would be nice if fish lvl and/or ilvl of seafood items was listed in the item description, in the actual game.
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