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    Quote Originally Posted by FinaSel View Post
    Currently stuck at 200 Blacksmith Desynth. Splendor items give either no increase in skill or about a .10 increase each time and are VERY annoying to get.

    Tomestone gear is also difficult to acquire. It seems like items in Stormblood also have 0.0% chance to desynth.

    I honestly don't know what I should desynth to get from 200 to say, 250?

    What method should I use??
    Replica High Alagan Weapons
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    Hello! I am about to level desynthesis from scratch.. still not decided which classes to pick! My main is white mage so i suppose weaver would be 1 choice for dungeon drops... i am also omnicrafter and plan to craft most things instead of buy from vendor... what about the rest 2?

    Also is therr a guide or a spreadsheet that tell us how many items we will need for each level bracket. I know it cannot be a fixex number but an estimated one... like 30-40 etc..
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    Kinda stuck on what to level in Desynth, in ARR I got Cul to 100, but that was because I was doing a lot of fishing.

    I didn't do anythign in HW, and so here I am now. Kinda unsure about the profitability ot the point of Desynthing tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeckyl_Tesla View Post
    Kinda stuck on what to level in Desynth, in ARR I got Cul to 100, but that was because I was doing a lot of fishing.

    I didn't do anythign in HW, and so here I am now. Kinda unsure about the profitability ot the point of Desynthing tbh.
    I dunno if desynthing is actually valuable at this point, but a little while ago at least, LTW could get you a leve item (Gagana Leather) which was selling on Faerie for 10-20k from desynthing 10k items bought from NPCs (i255 belts). I dunno what the market looks like now though, so that profitability bubble may have passed. WVR might have been similar with Ruby Silk, but I'm not sure of the profitability there.

    Desynth won't be that great until they add new desynth-only items, or start requiring FC3/BC3/MCDs for endgame crafting again. For now, it's just a way to get something from weapons, armor, and/or accessories you get while leveling classes to 70.
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinaSel View Post
    Currently stuck at 200 Blacksmith Desynth.
    I honestly don't know what I should desynth to get from 200 to say, 250?

    What method should I use??
    PVP PLD swords. I do GLD, BSM, and Leather with wolf marks among others.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jeckyl_Tesla View Post
    Kinda stuck on what to level in Desynth, in ARR I got Cul to 100, but that was because I was doing a lot of fishing.

    I didn't do anythign in HW, and so here I am now. Kinda unsure about the profitability ot the point of Desynthing tbh.
    There is gil in desynthing, even CUL But you have to be a serious fisher to use CUL. There is fair gil still in the 2.x swimsuit fish and minions.
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    Seeing that OP is still active, I'm wondering if this thread is ever going to be updated. I don't expect it to have SB stuff immediately, but the cap was raised well beyond what the guide covers even in HW and there's still really no guidance for those levels. In particular, now that the expansion is over, simply spamming the dungeons for gear is probably not a great option and I'd hope the guide would be point that out and offer alternatives, such as when and on what to use Centurio Seals and Tomestones of Poetics.
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    Why can't we desynth verity/lakshmi gear? Hope they will allow us to in 4.1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zied View Post
    Why can't we desynth verity/lakshmi gear? Hope they will allow us to in 4.1
    My fcmates have assured me that it's very normal to not be able to desynth that sort of gear at first and that it will likely be changed when the next set of primals comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    Seeing that OP is still active, I'm wondering if this thread is ever going to be updated. I don't expect it to have SB stuff immediately, but the cap was raised well beyond what the guide covers even in HW and there's still really no guidance for those levels. In particular, now that the expansion is over, simply spamming the dungeons for gear is probably not a great option and I'd hope the guide would be point that out and offer alternatives, such as when and on what to use Centurio Seals and Tomestones of Poetics.
    Babies are complicated. Toddlers, almost as much. I no longer have the free time I once did. I do plan to update the guide now that I'm playing FFXIV again (even if only at night), but it's far from a simple update, and I do not have a handle on the current economy. If you (or anyone else) are offering to help, that would be great. If not, it'll be updated slowly over time.

    There is also not currently a strong reason to do desynths like there used to be in 2.x. You can break even on some items, but there are no longer any new desynth-only items, either glamour items like the old swimsuits and fish minion or crafting mats like the FC/BC/MC demis. Desynth has been seriously neglected even as they have made significant changes to ease leveling it. That makes it hard to be motivated to do a guide - I can, and will, do a leveling guide, but I don't currently have an answer to "why should I level desynth" beyond "because then you'll have higher level desynth."

    I will be updating the LTW stuff first, from my own experiences. It's the only desynth I'm currently working on, personally. I don't know if I'll update the 1-100 leveling guides - things have changed, but I don't think enough to warrant a change to those. If someone wants to help with the leveling guides for other classes, please let me know.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zied View Post
    Why can't we desynth verity/lakshmi gear? Hope they will allow us to in 4.1
    You can never desynth the latest equipment. Verity items will be desynthable when the next set of tomestones comes out (and primals when the next set of primals comes out as Nixxe said).


    EDIT: According to the 4.0 patch notes, desynth success rates have changed again. If anyone can give me a few datapoints to add to my own, it would be immensely helpful! Please give the name of the item desynthed, your chance to desynth it, your dSkill before desynthing it, and your dSkill gained from the desynth (if successful). I don't need many datapoints, just a few scattered ones, especially at the earlier levels. I mainly need to use them to confirm my equations.
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    Last edited by Nyalia; 07-20-2017 at 10:51 PM.
    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    Babies are complicated. Toddlers, almost as much. I no longer have the free time I once did. I do plan to update the guide now that I'm playing FFXIV again (even if only at night), but it's far from a simple update, and I do not have a handle on the current economy. If you (or anyone else) are offering to help, that would be great. If not, it'll be updated slowly over time.

    There is also not currently a strong reason to do desynths like there used to be in 2.x. You can break even on some items, but there are no longer any new desynth-only items, either glamour items like the old swimsuits and fish minion or crafting mats like the FC/BC/MC demis. Desynth has been seriously neglected even as they have made significant changes to ease leveling it. That makes it hard to be motivated to do a guide - I can, and will, do a leveling guide, but I don't currently have an answer to "why should I level desynth" beyond "because then you'll have higher level desynth."

    I will be updating the LTW stuff first, from my own experiences. It's the only desynth I'm currently working on, personally. I don't know if I'll update the 1-100 leveling guides - things have changed, but I don't think enough to warrant a change to those. If someone wants to help with the leveling guides for other classes, please let me know.

    That's fine. I think the 1-100 stuff is probably fine. Probably the only thing worth adding is that you can use Allied Seals to buy the old ilvl 100 stuff for very little, which makes it very good for leveling desynth, even relatively early. I think I started around 80. The accessories are like 25 seals and come in at least GSM, WVR, and LTW flavors, so even if you fail a bunch, it hardly matters. Poetics and Centurio Seals are also generally helpful from like 160-260. It's not going to be as fast as some people probably want, but I think it's the most frugal way, while also still being effective.

    We'll see what they do with desynth, but at the moment I think the best reason to level desynth is in anticipation of future additions. After all, weren't FC/MC IIIs added in HW? We may see another addition in SB, even if desynth overall plays a smaller role than it used to. I know CUL can desynth some fish for combat VIs, which I guess is probably worth it to some people, though I haven't seen anything exciting in the few pieces of 300 gear I've desynthed with GSM.
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