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    I can confirm battlecraft 2's from lvl 50 recipes (that aren't 1-star, like tane mahuta) but I haven't tried much with 48 or 49's. And most crafts don't have lvl 50 non-1-star synths. Tane Mahuta is great though, can send retainers out for the ochu vines.
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    Thank you all for the clarification! Sorry for the doubt, but I definitely remember doing i49s and getting Is. Clearly, I misremembered this and need to update my info in various places. Thanks!

    Odd though that i48 = 1x, and i49, 50, 52, 55 = 2x. I'd have expected a wider range to be 1x.

    On a side note, does anyone know if Ifrit weapons (i60) and other i60 dungeon drops give Battlecraft III or Battlecraft II? I have yet to get either from them, but I have a very, very small sample size.


    And, to help out with figuring the yields on these things, if people could post their data (aggregate or individual) as follows, I'll run some numbers and see if we can figure out how ilvl affects the yields:

    - Recipe Level (Item name or category optional) (Item level for non-vanity items that can't be crafted, recipe level for items that can be crafted, and something else for vanity items that can't be crafted. If you can't figure this out easily (like with Sea-Breeze swimwear), include your desynth skill level and your desynth success chance)
    - Number of Successful Desynths (unsuccessful ones are not important)
    - Demimateria Received (number of times demimateria was given, amount of demimateria each time, and type of demimateria)

    For instance:
    - i60 (Ifrit)
    - 2 total desynths
    - 1 Inferno Demimateria x3

    - i90 (Carbuncle Chronometer)
    - 39 total desynths
    - 4 Fieldcraft Demimateria III x1, 2 Fieldcraft Demimateria III x2

    - i90 (Gold Spectacles)
    - 33 total desynths
    - 1 Battlecraft Demimateria III x1, 2 Battlecraft Demimateria III x2

    - i47 (Electrum Needle)
    - 103 total desynths
    - 11 Fieldcraft Demimateria I x1, 12 Fieldcraft Demimateria I x2

    And so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    Thank you all for the clarification! Sorry for the doubt, but I definitely remember doing i49s and getting Is. Clearly, I misremembered this and need to update my info in various places. Thanks!

    Odd though that i48 = 1x, and i49, 50, 52, 55 = 2x. I'd have expected a wider range to be 1x.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    I can confirm battlecraft 2's from lvl 50 recipes (that aren't 1-star, like tane mahuta) but I haven't tried much with 48 or 49's. And most crafts don't have lvl 50 non-1-star synths. Tane Mahuta is great though, can send retainers out for the ochu vines.
    I'm sorry i mixed up the order of the i50/i49 (GSM Earings are i50) items so you may have remembered correctly regarding i48-49 items only dropping Battle Is. It's the i50 GSM Earings (Zircon) that drop Battle IIs up to a max of x2 as Alistaire confirmed with Tane Mahuta. I need to double check if i49 items drop Battle IIs at all.
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    The earrings, at least on my server, cost twice as much as the Madman's Whispering Rod using the mat costs from the last time I checked. It's just, 22 shards is expensive right now, much more so than 5 crystals. So, the Zircons cost 550 to make, as opposed to the one star gathering mats that are still very cheap.

    That said, the Tane Mahuta is a tiny bit cheaper than the Madman's Whispering Rod (about 100 gold with my numbers). I can't find anything cheaper than that. I looked through all of the level 50 recipes, and they are all 4000+, where Tane Mahuta is 1800. So, my point that ALC happens to have the cheapest BCIIs still stands for now, at least on my server.

    I'll rerun the numbers with current prices next time I get in game. I'll also verify what the i48 and i49 stuff gives (I'm certain that i47 gives Is only since I desynthed a hundred of them recently).
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    49s definitely give 1's, if GSM's Tortoiseshell Armillae is any indication.
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    Okay, so I don't have too much wrong then. I'll go list the 50s as other options to getting the BC/FC IIs when I have a chance.

    Btw, have any of you found any other things I've posted to be inaccurate? Let me know if so and I'll update them. I know my demimateria yields are wrong, but I'm still trying to get data on those. It's hard to say what's "best" for each type of demimateria without knowing the yields from different ilvls. My current data suggests that i70 and i90 items drop demimateria at the same rate (20% x1 at i70, 7% x1 and 7% x2 at i90), which seems really odd and incorrect. Need moar data!
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    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
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    Tane Mahuta is more easily farmed.

    And OP lists GSM as "mid" for battlecraft 3's. It's definitely by far the best; something about darklight accessories being guaranteed from half the chests of at least 2 dungeons.

    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    49s definitely give 1's, if GSM's Tortoiseshell Armillae is any indication.
    Yeah I remember doing a bunch of those now and getting 1's. Tane Mahuta though is definitely 2's.
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    great guide but its a little misleading

    aint read every reply so dunno if this has been mentioned but please add rose gold nuggets to artisan spec's desynth list...?
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    Kind of obviously only listing things of value. I get Cut Stone from desynthing titan weapons but that's hardly worth mentioning is it?
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    Ah-ha! After a 5-6 more attempts at desynthing a sarnga I was able to replicate my results . Here's the proof that you can get back the weapon part. Rare, but it's possible.

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