Desynthesis Endgame Guide

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Because Artisan Spectacles are considered i70 and the 3 star furnitures are considered i90

There should be higher yield rate for i90 stuff, otherwise, whats the point?

ilvl 70 stuff always spends 1 demi III, ilvl 90 stuff spends 1-2 demi III

that makes it much better

[Elasia]

Was there any factoring in of that i90 furniture is a 70% rate and specs are 100% success rate? All I saw was chatter about successful ones but nothing about the fact that all furniture takes an automatic 30% haircut right out of the gate that is destroyed

Unless you are buying 3 star mats in the 5-7k range and tawny in the 1-2k range, relish is usually going to still come out ahead especially if you are able to resell the mastercraft for a decent price that you will get overloaded on

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Alch: It does have the cheapest way to get Battlecraft Demimateria IIs, but they're of limited usefulness.

Can you please list the item you are refferring to here? Would be nice if its included in the guide as many of us need these Battle IIs to craft augmented chest pieces and there are no real economic ways (shards) of going about it.

[SeraviEdalborez]

Can you please list the item you are refferring to here? Would be nice if its included in the guide as many of us need these Battle IIs to craft augmented chest pieces and there are no real economic ways (shards) of going about it.

Madman's Whispering Rod. It's listed in 3 places.

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Madman's Whispering Rod. It's listed in 3 places.

Thanks for pointing this out. Still cant see why its considered the cheapest way of farming B2s considering it uses several 1star gathering node items as well as crystals. We are able get the same amount (1-2 demi) from the lvl 48-49 50* gear and those only require shards and cheaper matts. Budding rosewood wand, Tane mahuta, Embossed book of electrum etc.

Edit: After confirming that GSM Earings are in fact i50* i made a mistake in stating that i49 items drop Battle IIs in stacks of x2. They still drop Battle IIs but in singles.

[Nyalia]

Thanks for pointing this out. Still cant see why its considered the cheapest way of farming B2s considering it uses several 1star gathering node items as well as crystals. We are able get the same amount (1-2 demi) from the lvl 48-49 gear and those only require shards and cheaper matts. Budding rosewood wand, Tane mahuta, Embossed book of electrum etc.

I have never gotten a Battlecraft II from ilvl 48-49 gear, only from i55 gear. I get Battlecraft Is from ilvl 48-49 gear. Can you post a screenshot of getting a II from items in that range?


Also, yes, my math was taking into account the 70% success rate. On my server, HQ Dzemael Tomatoes are going for 5k each, making the relish cost 80k each (the shards are not cheap either). Summoning bells, in contrast, take only ~30k in materials (8k for Scheelite, 10k for Petrified Log, 4k for Scarlet Sap, 3k for Ferberite, 3k for clusters). Taking the 70% into account (and rounding up), that costs 43k, which is about half the price of the relish. Even if the relish has a higher chance of giving Demi IIIs (which is not what my experience shows), it's a more expensive (and time consuming) option.

Also, random being random, we need a larger sample size to really get the correct yields. All my sample sizes are well under 100, which is hardly enough to conclusively say anything about the actual chances. Adding your results for Artisan Spectacles to what I have read elsewhere, that's 140 attempts, 22 FC IIIs, giving a chance of 15.7%. The more data I get, the more the numbers are converging on the same range. I'm starting to think that there isn't a difference between i90 and i70, even if i90 can give sets of 2s. However, on my server, i90 items are half the price of i70 items across the board. i70s tend to be about 100k each (artisan specs being the cheapest that I've seen at 80k), and i90 items tend to be about 40k each (summoning bells being the cheapest at 30k. Even with the 70%, i90s are cheaper. On my server. If your server has different prices, then do things accordingly. I gave a link to the spreadsheet I'm using to calculate costs. You can use it with your server's prices and see what's best.

[SeraviEdalborez]

Precisely because it is 1* node items and only requires 3 of them. Tane Mahuta requires 4 items, one of them (Ochu Vine) being a mob drop. Embossed book is a 2-step synth, ergo more work. That's also assuming i49 stuff will even give battle 2.

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Precisely because it is 1* node items and only requires 3 of them. Tane Mahuta requires 4 items, one of them (Ochu Vine) being a mob drop. Embossed book is a 2-step synth, ergo more work. That's also assuming i49 stuff will even give battle 2.

I can guarentee 48-49 i50* gear gives Battle 2s and they also drop in stacks of max 2 from my experience. I farm B2s on my GSM using i50* jewelry. Just wanted to see why this ALCH method is considered the cheapest. imo its definately not.

Spinel Earings only require 1 electrum ingot and 2 Spinel. I must be missing something. 1star nodes are gated by time/cost/class making i55 expensive and time consuming. i50* items are much cheaper/easier to spam imo.

Lets just hope this new theory of "Diminishing Returns" isn't as bad as they say it is.

Edit: After confirming that GSM Earings are in fact i50* i made a mistake in stating that i49 items drop Battle IIs in stacks of x2. They still drop Battle IIs but in singles.

[Nyalia]

I can guarentee 48-49 gear gives Battle 2s and they also drop in stacks of max 2 from my experience. I farm B2s on my GSM using i49 jewelry. Just wanted to see why this ALCH method is considered the cheapest. imo its definately not.

Spinel Earings only require 1 electrum ingot and 2 Spinel. I must be missing something. 1star nodes are gated by time/cost/class making i55 expensive and time consuming. i49 items are much cheaper/easier to spam imo.

That's... unexpected. Can anyone else confirm that i48-i50 items (non-1*) give Demi IIs, both Battlecraft and Fieldcraft? I thought I'd tested them out and got Is, but my memory isn't the best and I could be mistaken. I know for certain that i47 crafting gear gives FC Is.

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That's... unexpected. Can anyone else confirm that i48-i50 items (non-1*) give Demi IIs, both Battlecraft and Fieldcraft? I thought I'd tested them out and got Is, but my memory isn't the best and I could be mistaken. I know for certain that i47 crafting gear gives FC Is.

I'll try to get a screen tonight but i can confirm it is the case. Test it out on a batch of 20 earings and u should get a few. Try sticking to the i49 i50* items as i did notice a difference compared to i48 i49* for example. i49 drops in singles.

Edit: After confirming that GSM Earings are in fact i50, i made a mistake in stating that i49 items drop Battle IIs. I'll double check again tonight to confirm.