Warriors of Light question. Explanation needed.

[Divine_Intervention]

Okay, so as per the dialogue in this game, the warriors of light. noone can remember their faces, they are a vague memory. But, we're the warrior of light?

Can someone please explain something that's been bugging me since i got this on release for PS3:

In the game's initial cutscene, we see the battle with bahamut, and those people being teleported by.. i think that's Louisoux (sp)?

We see them vanish, and then reappear somewhere else, which must be in Eorzea, because we see the burning bridge when they are riding chocobos.

Please let me know what's going on here. I have no idea. Do they still exist, and are on their way back? I really want to know this lol.

[TeaTimeBear]

They still exist the ones before. They just aren't remembered. People who are legacy members are warriors of light who came before. As for us.. People who are new to Ffxiv (non legacy) we are also a warrior of light. There is no set defined amount of warriors.

To add to this one of the earliest cutscenes shows Hydaelyn surrounded by many warriors orbiting around her light.

[Velox]

A Warrior of Light is anyone who is touched by Hydaelyn (the Mothercrystal) and has taken it upon his/herself to defend the peace in Eorzea.

[Enkidoh]

The term itself is somewhat ambiguous, but originally, it referred to the adventurers who fought at the Battle of Carteneau. Gameplay wise these were a certain group of version 1.0 players, specifically, those who passed a certain point in 1.0's storyline, namely, destroying the Lunar Transmitter. During the battle this small group of adventurers was displaced in time into the Void by Louisoix in a last ditch, 'fling a light into the future' effort to save Eorzea (this was what was shown in the 'End of an Era/A New Beginning' trailer).

When these adventurers returned, five years had passed (the start of ARR), and for reasons not entirelly explained, immediately after the battle, a sort of selective amnesia had descended across the survivors who remained behind, who were able to remember that there had been adventurers who helped defend Eorzea, but for some reason they could not remember their names specifically, nor remember their faces - it was if their memories of these adventurers were obscured by a bright light. Hence they were termed 'the Warriors of Light'.

Ultimately, both the original Warriors of Light, those other adventurers from before the Calamity who survived, and new adventurers who have just begun to take 'the Path', all become the Warriors of Light by the end of the 2.0 storyline. Minfilia even states this, that it's not what you might have done in the past that's important, but what you have done in the present which is what ultimately counts, and that their achievements throughout the main scenario have begun to remind others of the original Warriors of Light. By the end, this is attained because the player was given the Echo by the Mothercrystal, the player is therefore her 'champion' in a way (having succeeded in gathering the Crystals of Light), and because of this, all player characters ultimately become a Warrior of Light.

And yes, from the perspective of a version 1.0 player who satisfied the requirements, the world does end up remembering their identity in the ending, but from the perspective of a new player character, the 'original' Warriors of Light never returned as far as they're aware. Essentially they just become an ideal for adventurers to aspire to be like, which ultimately the player achieves themselves. A certain line from Answers actually sums this up nicely: "Look to those who walked before, to lead those who walk after."

[Niwashi]

The term itself is somewhat ambiguous, but originally, it referred to the adventurers who fought at the Battle of Carteneau. Gameplay wise these were a certain group of version 1.0 players, specifically, those who passed a certain point in 1.0's storyline, namely, destroying the Lunar Transmitter.

That's one possible interpretation, but it's not all that cut and dried. There are some references that could be interpreted as meaning that all our characters, whether legacy or not, were in fact those Warriors of Light that fought at the Battle of Carteneau.

It was five years ago, and our characters are all adults, so clearly they all lived through the Calamity, and yet new players need it explained to them, so our characters are said to have lost their memory of the event. This is what's used to justify a lot of the early game exposition, and it also references the fact that this is connected to how everyone forgot who the Warriors of Light were. So while never explicitly stated, it's strongly implied that for our characters to remember their own part in the events surrounding the Calamity would be equivalent to remembering the Warriors of Light (because that was their part in those events).

So while some players played through that portion of the storyline and some didn't, the characters themselves could be thought of as having been there regardless. The difference lies simply in whether it was a playable part of the game, or just part of the backstory. The whole Calamity and everything surrounding it has become backstory in ARR.

[Lethorian]

That's one possible interpretation, but it's not all that cut and dried. There are some references that could be interpreted as meaning that all our characters, whether legacy or not, were in fact those Warriors of Light that fought at the Battle of Carteneau.

This is what I think. Kind of how the story starts in three separate scenarios depending on what city state you chose, 2.0's story has a similar scenario where there are three separate storylines depending on if you completed 1.0, played 1.0 without completion, or are new to xiv entirely. Even though there are many players in the game while you're playing it is YOUR story and everyone else are just "adventurers". At the conclusion of 2.0's main story it can be assumed that the stories merged together effectively making you out to be a warrior of light, regardless of your starting point.

[Anonymoose]

A long time ago, in a thread far, far in the archives, I wrote a very detailed explanation of ... Oh. What Enkidoh said.

[Toranja]

A Warrior of Light is a L50 Warrior in Labyrinth of the Ancients gear.

[Divine_Intervention]

Ahh, that clears things up a bit. Thanks guys.

I would still love it if at some future expansion we do actually meet/interact with these original Warriors of Carteneau. Shrug, time shall tell, i'll probably be left wanting, but meh lol.

Thanks for the time taken to explain this

-edit- I realise from reading this again, technically all the players who were 1.0 are the original warriors of light, but i meant more in the sense of meeting those guys from the cutscene xD

[Gemma]

-edit- I realise from reading this again, technically all the players who were 1.0 are the original warriors of light, but i meant more in the sense of meeting those guys from the cutscene xD

Actually the party in the video is just a representation of us players. So they will never be actual NPCs which is why they have no names.

So yea Original Warriors of Light are just us 1.0 players, but like was explained above at this point we all are Warriors of Light ^_^b