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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhinse View Post
    It does not hurt to use this, so please continue to try to use it, even if it feels futile (because most of the time it is). But have good faith in knowing it isn't futile because of youu~~~. Remember that you can check for party leader recruits while you are seeking, and spread the word on your server.
    This is exactly what I do personally... be the hope your server NEEDS to be to spread the usefulness to the NA people :P At times when it seems dead too you'll be surprised that you WILL actually get invites here and there and such. The best thing you can do is hang on and keep trying to spread the word/get it to grow^^
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    Zavier Mhigo
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    In the later days of XI i'd put no to this and that party camp in my comment and no one even read it. >.< I'm afraid we already have those dregs playing XIV? You know how many people play this game and don't even read the lodestone of patch updates, or even know when a patch is? They rely for everyone in their ls for info all the time. I hate those people and the game is filled with them.
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    Kyra Narese
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    Played this for almost a year and still cant figure out this party matching system lol. It needs to be completly redone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyra View Post
    Played this for almost a year and still cant figure out this party matching system lol. It needs to be completly redone.
    The party match is reversed from FF11.

    Instead of the people asking to join, the leader opens a room for people to join. Much like your FPS style, you make a room, and you wait for people to come in (except with uber bad filters..like I want a glad...and a conj? nope can do)

    Basically it's super bad system. More so since they took out any form of search.

    FF11 was way more efficient and better in that you can filter any and what way with /sea [modifier]

    It's another example of the fail motto "Not be FF11 for the sake of not being FF11" that doomed the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    The party match is reversed from FF11.

    Instead of the people asking to join, the leader opens a room for people to join. Much like your FPS style, you make a room, and you wait for people to come in (except with uber bad filters..like I want a glad...and a conj? nope can do)
    Yes you can do that. Use the + and - buttons, they add more slots (you can only add up to 4 though, I think :X I always just put it as "Any" and "7").

    Basically it's super bad system. More so since they took out any form of search.
    Press the search button?

    FF11 was way more efficient and better in that you can filter any and what way with /sea [modifier]

    It's another example of the fail motto "Not be FF11 for the sake of not being FF11" that doomed the game.
    Can't argue there.

    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    Not that simple since it's about 20 steps more then an already established FF11 method. Kinda like MWs to the efficiency of AH.
    It's like 4 steps. It's not hard at all, but then again, people in this game are getting incredibly lazy.

    You can't directly invite them (because the invite system is also crippled) you can't communicate, and you can't cross reference. (if they picked U'ath and you picked none, nothing shows up)
    You can send people invites with /party cmd add [name] or something like that + you can invite them from the party system. You can also send tells from there. And I don't know what you mean by cross reference. Setting it to "Purpose: None" or "Location: None" allows you to see "All" in those categories, except "Seek Invite" because then you'd have a cluttered list mixed of parties being formed and people wanting an invite.

    Worse of all, you can't even distinguish features due to the broken(aka nonexistant) /sea system.
    Not sure what else they need besides Rank distinguishing. You can distinguish by class, location of action, and what they want to do.

    It works fine. People just need to start using it. I've seen at least 5 JP parties start up from the patch, but none from NA. They need better documentation on it, and they could stand to make it a little easier (such as one-touch "Seek Invite") but it works fine right now. Just gotta figure it out.
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    Last edited by SuzakuCMX; 07-26-2011 at 05:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    Not sure what else they need besides Rank distinguishing. You can distinguish by class, location of action, and what they want to do.
    Roles they want to fill (dps, healer, tank) and their respective level for each of those roles. A single player should be able to show himself as wanting to heal at rank 25, dps at rank 15 or 40 and tank at rank 40 all of this while he soloing at rank 10 during his wait. This hypothetical player would be CON 25/ARC 15/PUG 40/THM 10 (healing as a CON, DPSing as ARC, DPSing and tanking as a PUG and soloing as a THM). The FF14 class system is more complex than the average single role system, so our LFM/LFG tool should take this into consideration.

    Consider the Rift LFG tool for instance, you have 4 check-boxes, one per role you want to LFG for. And Rift game has only one global level for each role...

    It works fine. People just need to start using it.
    Technically, I agree, it "works". But it absolutely not something I would qualify of usable. Everything I asked for can be done in a single window, with no dropbox and only checkboxes. Two clics in total could be enough to set up what I asked, assuming the window is nicely done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nipa View Post
    Roles they want to fill (dps, healer, tank) and their respective level for each of those roles. A single player should be able to show himself as wanting to heal at rank 25, dps at rank 15 or 40 and tank at rank 40 all of this while he soloing at rank 10 during his wait. This hypothetical player would be CON 25/ARC 15/PUG 40/THM 10 (healing as a CON, DPSing as ARC, DPSing and tanking as a PUG and soloing as a THM). The FF14 class system is more complex than the average single role system, so our LFM/LFG tool should take this into consideration.

    Consider the Rift LFG tool for instance, you have 4 check-boxes, one per role you want to LFG for. And Rift game has only one global level for each role...
    I guess, but it's completely functional without that. GLA or MRD will most likely tank/DPS, CON will most likely heal, THM will most likely nuke.

    Technically, I agree, it "works". But it absolutely not something I would qualify of usable. Everything I asked for can be done in a single window, with no dropbox and only checkboxes. Two clics in total could be enough to set up what I asked, assuming the window is nicely done.
    "Can be done better" =/= "unusable." A lot of things can be done better. It's fine as it is and a total rehaul of it would only be necessary if people in the game are too lazy to read documentation (that should be put up).
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

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    They put in a party seek like FFXI's and I guarantee you people will be using it on day 1.
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    Been using it for a couple of days now, absolutely nothing. =(
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    Last edited by xeqtr; 07-26-2011 at 02:06 PM.

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    Will Brannigan
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    I've been trying it out since my LS can't manage to get eight 50s on to enter Darkhold. I haven't had any luck. I'm not sure if it's because no one wants to PUG Darkhold or if it's because no NAs on Figaro groups outside of their LS. It's probably a combination of both of those and people not understanding the tool. A visual flag would really help. Also, a way to instantly search for everyone who is LFG. I'm pretty sure right now you can just search by class.
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