SE and the radar app thing

[Evenstar]

Join a LS for hunting, make a LS for hunting. Why feel so damn entitled to something you obviously put absolutely not effort in? I am in 3 major hunting linkshell. I turn them on when I want to hunt, I turn them off when I do not want to hunt. I make a party with FC members and/or other friends and fill it up with people from those linkshell. Together we report all 17 A's of the whole server every time they spawn.

Stop asking SE to fix something, while you are the one putting absolutely no effort into it.

Freaking "please give me everything on a golden platter" attitude is starting to get unreal in this game.

[Mokado]

I guess most people who have problems in hunting they don't even have one single LS of hunting (i have 4 ls's for hunt + FC + TS3 groups) hunt demands time, thank god i can play at work

[Wulfyn]

They are asking them to fix something that is not included in the game. At the least, Elites are now being monopolized to a point, players are taking advantage of something not implemented well. I don't think they intended for players to amass 500+ seals in a week. All in all the Hunt has just really created strife, which SE is mainly to blame. It is not that people want things handed to them, it is more like wishing to actually get full credit I believe like in my case. You also have players complaining about not being able to find pts for DF or CoB. No reason for any of us to get pissy with each other on here, let's all just agree to disagree.

[Evenstar]

Why am I not allowed to gather 500 seals in a week (or hell I gather even 500 in a day if I have no work on that day). Two full cycles of A hunts and you done.

Do people use radar? I am sure lots do!
Do they have an advantage over people that do not use it? I am sure they do!

This all does not change the fact most people crying in this and countless other threads are simply lazy and feel entitled on getting something others work hard for.

I personally spot 2-3 A's a day. Since I know all the spawning points of Marberry and Forneus I am often the one to spot those. I know where to look and I know when they are able to pop, because we keep a spreadsheet.
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All those people crying here .... please tell me what did YOU do to hunt a mark down? Took a note? Made a spreadsheet? Joined a LS? Or did you just party up with 2 others and tried to run aound like a headless chicken, just to find out there were no A marks up because they all got killed and no window was up yet?

[Surian]

This all does not change the fact most people crying in this and countless other threads are simply lazy and feel entitled on getting something others work hard for.

I personally spot 2-3 A's a day. Since I know all the spawning points of Marberry and Forneus I am often the one to spot those. I know where to look and I know when they are able to pop, because we keep a spreadsheet.
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All those people crying here .... please tell me what did YOU do to hunt a mark down? Took a note? Made a spreadsheet? Joined a LS? Or did you just party up with 2 others and tried to run aound like a headless chicken, just to find out there were no A marks up because they all got killed and no window was up yet?

Why are you being so offensive? Is it because everyone else wants to take your toys (cheats) away from you? It's not fair to others, thus you shouldnt be allowed to use it. Period.

[Evenstar]

Who is offensive now? I am just stating certain facts.

I am not using radar, nor do I feel the need to use it. If you can not see huge ass mobs spawning without the use of an app you need to check if you need glasses.

I am against players feeling entitled to certain aspects of the game, while they absolutely put no effort into it.

Now, if you would say "ban everyone that uses radar" I would agree with you. However saying "add radar and timers as an official application to the game" is just stupid and simply means "I am too lazy to work for hunts, so golden platter please".

[Evenstar]

One other thing .... "the casuals" always talk about the "hardcore" being elitest pricks right?

Yet, by addition of the hunt all the work of those "hardcore" raiders was thrown out of the window, because now everyone can get the same level of gear without being in Coil ever .....

And STILL, it is mainly "the casual corner" that is crying SE a river for being forgotten and still want it easier and easier and easier. They still blame people that are organized, have a bit more time and know what the hell they are doing instead of doing something about it THEMSELVES.

... seriously. Do you complain at your boss when something at your job is doing a better job than you do or do you try to get better?

[Wulfyn]

Honestly I don't know the difference as to what class they are, I assume Naul is a nasty one and Moracao sp? I am just saying I don't know if they intended for big groups of players to go around and constantly farm boss marks. Since that is the case and players are getting nasty with each other, it is bad. If I was to find a boss I knew I could handle with my chocobo, do I tag it and kill it then have to put up with the nastiness? Considering some of those doing nothing but farming elites and thus in other's eyes abandoning DF and other end game stuff, seem to feel entitled themselves to spawns irregardless if some player is still trying to get full credit. Goes both ways. I see the fighting everytime I go to certain zones. It is tiring. Monopolization of spawns only leads to bad behaviour in the end, just think of all the NM's and triggers in FFXI that people fought and cheated over.

Was big revenue for gil farmers until SE started adjusting drops. I mention gil farmers because of tomes and the mats you can get with tomes.

[Zakalwe]

I may eventually start doing hunts but I don't really look forward to joining a locust-swarm LS that tolerates cheaters in order to do so efficiently.

[Evenstar]

I am not sure it is being monopolized. It is not like a small group of 20-30 people are killing them over and over again.

Every S mark mob is hunted down by 150-200 people on our server. It is announced in all the big hunting linkshells when they pop. Every A mark mob is hunted down by 25-50 people during off hours and 50-100 during peak hours. Like I said before I am in 3 major linkshells for hunting marks. All of the linkshells have 128 members, all off the linkshells have members of all the major and minor free companies on the server. The reach out is huge.

Personally I have a macro. When I spot something, I press my macro and it announced the mark to my party and free company. 10 seconds after that it announces the mark to all the three linkshells I am in.

The problem here is not people spotting, killing and hunting the marks in huge groups. The problem is that players that do not join a linkshell, do not know about spawning conditions and do not want to put in any kind of effort feel entitled in killing marks too.

@Zakalwe It is almost impossible to tell who is cheating, so you can not blame linkshell leaders of knowingly allowing people in their linkshells. If SE can't control it or can tell who is cheating, how on earth is a linkshell leader going to tell? It is not fair to generalize every linkshell and every hardcore mark hunter as a cheater, just because some of them use radar while others really know what they are doing.

@Wulfyn Naul is a B, easy mark. Marocco is harder (A), need a party or a proper light party at least.