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    Contribution on the Hunt - Harder to get Full Credit? Bug after Maintenance? :(

    Hi All,

    After this latest Maintenance (post Patch 2.3), to "fix" the Hunt system (increasing HP), I've noticed that contrary to the Patch Notes, the amount of Contribution per Player has NOT been "eased" but is actually far more stringent.

    It sounds like a bug / error occurred in the formula calcuation. Per the Patch Notes:

    "As the elite marks HP is increased, the amount of contribution points which affects the reward after defeating will be eased."

    Post maintenance, I've attacked multiple B & A Rank NMs on the Hunt, with only ~ 8 - 10 people (I was solo). BEFORE the Maintenance, I was able to consistently get 5 Allied Seals (Max Contribution) with small groups like this (even when I solo'd or duo'd something).

    After the Maintenance, I'm getting 1 - 2 Allied Seals at best. Again, with no one else around (8 - 10 people max).

    In addition, in Full Parties, I can confirm that wailing on a B, A, or even S Rank post-maintenance has consistently yielded LESS than Full Credit / Contribution. It's much harder to get Full Credit now.

    Doesn't this feel like a Bug / Error in the calculation for Contribution for the Hunt? Or Square secretly nerfing Seal Acquisition?
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    Last edited by Kiara; 07-17-2014 at 11:44 PM.

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    I don't actually read that as them making it easier.
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    If you try to do Hunts solo, you're gonna have a bad time.

    Anyway, them increasing the HP actually makes it harder for the DPS portion of contribution to get full credit since you need to do more damage for the same 1% than before the patch where you needed less damage assuming they didn't decrease the threshold for full credit and just blanket increased HP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    I don't actually read that as them making it easier.
    But isn't that the point of the maintenance was to allow Hunt NMs to live longer, so more people could actually GET some contribution (and more Allied Seals)?

    Before the maintenance, a zerg fest and NMs died within seconds. Most would get 1 Allied Seal or nothing (NM was dead).

    After maintenance, NMs last a bit longer (hoping that more players can get in some attacks and get SOME contribution (better than before)). But as I've seen so far, you're getting LESS Allied Seals / LESS Credit for Contribution after this maintenance. This feels broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    If you try to do Hunts solo, you're gonna have a bad time.

    Anyway, them increasing the HP actually makes it harder for the DPS portion of contribution to get full credit since you need to do more damage for the same 1% than before the patch where you needed less damage assuming they didn't decrease the threshold for full credit and just blanket increased HP.
    Do you really think the people that couldn't think ahead when they developed this, would think that far ahead when they "fixed" it?
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    I think whatever they did in the patch they made it harder to get full credit. I always do hunts in a full party 8/8 even so we been seeing a lot of half credit 3 and 12 on B and A. about 25% of the time or so we don't get full credit. When before the patch we would almost always get full credit unless someone arrived really late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    I think whatever they did in the patch they made it harder to get full credit. I always do hunts in a full party 8/8 even so we been seeing a lot of half credit 3 and 12 on B and A. about 25% of the time or so we don't get full credit. When before the patch we would almost always get full credit unless someone arrived really late.
    Yah I can confirm this also (Party situation) and arriving at the *start* of a B or A, and after maintenance (even withOUT a big zerg rush), we're getting LESS than full credit sometimes now.

    Did SE do a Ninja-Patch Nerf to Seal acquisition to slow things down?
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    Last edited by Kiara; 07-17-2014 at 11:45 PM.

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    We ran into a couple S Rank NM Hunt Mobs yesterday.

    Even arriving on time (HP at 100%), we're getting a "Low Contribution" Reward on Seals.

    Dev Team, it feels like you've just added more HP on Mobs (slightly), and secretly Nerfed the amount of Seals people can get across the board. It's much harder to get Full Credit now.
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    Credit is tagging it or doing 30%+ of the damage (includes whole party damage).
    If 10 parties are hitting hunt it is very possible only the tag (which can be a single person) will get full credit.
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    Hi Staris,

    Oh I'm not questioning what % counts as full credit. What I'm saying is that across the board, All Hunt NMs after this maintenance have been tweaked so that it's much harder to get full credit for contributing.

    What makes it worse is that the Patch Notes from the Dev Team claim that this maintenance was to try and fix the Hunts and EASE the stress of more players trying to get some rewards (before they were just dying too fast).

    Instead, after the maintenance we're all getting LESS Seals than before most of the time. This comes across as disingenuous.
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