Design Flaws with Atma, let me count the ways

[Cassandaria]

Let's be honest, Atma grind is here because the community at large BEGGED for a gameplay element to be like FFXI. It's that simple, people wanted grind for something, they got it. Now people complain. Quite frankly, they release an alternative every few patches to make it fair. If you want to grind, you grind, if you don't want to grind, there's an option for you too! Don't like killing EX primals to get high level weapons? run ST! solution had!
Don't like grinding atmas to get a weapon that you keep advancing and changing and altering? do other content. It's not being locked out of content, it's being settled that quite frankly, not every player will be able to complete every single quest or line, some gear is only for people willing to dedicate the time or that get lucky. This thread is old, worn out, past its prime and this is not changing. Drop it already people.

[Avarghaladion]

Drop it already people.

They are... in that they've outright quit the game. It's easy to dismiss peoples' compaints but it isn't exactly a healthy approach. The reason these threads keep popping up is because some people are very disappointed in what they've been paying for.

[Duuude007]

The reason these threads keep popping up is because some people are very disappointed in what they've been paying for.

Indeed, because it is crucial that every aspect of the game must be appealing to every niche player in the game because that's what happens in reality.

Oh, wait... Scratch that, reverse it.

[Avarghaladion]

Indeed, because it is crucial that every aspect of the game must be appealing to every niche player in the game because that's what happens in reality.

Oh, wait... Scratch that, reverse it.

Yeah! Imagine people providing feedback for the parts of the game they most care about, that hold their primary interest, or in which they see the most problems... how outlandish would that be!? If only, instead of providing warranted feedback, everyone would just abstain from playing the parts of the game they... y'know... got the game for in the first place! Conscientiousness be damned!

Pithiness aside, Relic quests have been a fundamental concept in FF Online for over a decade. It is not "niche." It is core. The contrary and myopic argument that there are alternative weapons in FFXIV right now does not address the lack of quality in the anti-content we've received nor does it speak to the overall content imbalance the game is currently experiencing. Furthermore, while it does not describe the vast majority of players with concerns about Atma, it has been argued that the Atma "content" was intended for casuals. While I would argue this is certainly not the case, that would not be considered a "niche" group.

[Lunette-rain]

I can agree with what your saying, I think the fact is that people want to get the ilvl 110 or whatever, and the gear that any person gets in not equal to what the novues is at.
( yes I do know there are spelling errors) All I am wanting to see is just a little better % than where it is at. Mainly, a 10 or 20% chance. Still it will make you work as a gamer, but it gives increased odds.