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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triston View Post
    All this localization shit talking assumes that what is theorized is in fact the S rank spawn requirements, and that they have spawn requirements to begin with. None of this will ever be confirmed until either SE admits it or with months and months of data to exclude random time spawns. (hint: a week's worth of incidences is not nearly enough for that)
    While regular marks denote enemies commonly found in the wilds of Eorzea, elite marks denote powerful enemies that only appear under certain conditions
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...582d59335acd84

    Elite marks can appear in any area, with some of them appearing only when certain conditions are met.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/178148
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triston View Post
    Perhaps you need a refresher on statistical induction. Even if SE has confirmed that they have specific spawn requirements, (thank you TheMax1087, I didn't know) performing an action and witnessing an event and concluding one caused the other is induction AKA can't be proven. S Hunts have been out for much less than a month, and on ~48 hr respawn timers, even pooling across all servers it is not a very large sample size per mob.
    Ok. I'll go pop the S-Ranks with my server when their window opens, you can sit in that corner.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1dder View Post
    This seems a bit far-fetched if you ask me... Like the atma timers that didn't really work..
    Bad analogy. There weren't npcs in game that gave clues to acquiring atma faster. Also if you paid attention: Yoshida himself has said that S ranks have 'difficult' spawn conditions. \
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fushikage View Post
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    The biggest white knight of all.

    It doesn't matter that they completely changed text or made hints nearly impossible to guess, SE didn't do wrong, SE never does wrong, it's your fault for not guessing correctly.

    I much rather have a game where I can spend days guessing how to spawn a S rank than one where SE is wrong, even if it makes all scholar NPC useless.
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    Bookmarked and ty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triston View Post
    ...the Zodiac Spear chest nonsense from XII...
    Hated this thing. I loved opening every chest in the game, only to find out that I screwed myself over and NO WAY to fix it. Just had to comment on this particular point.

    Otherwise, thanks OP for the data.
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  7. #57
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    My assumption is that the localization team was given the clues and not the spawn conditions themselves, so they weren't really aware of what part of the clue was actually important. It's not that they did a "bad" job localizing it, but they should have been made aware that certain things that might seem like flavor text could be more important than they realized.
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  8. #58
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    Aislin Delhir
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    I don't know. I'd say they did a "bad" job localizing it if they saw what it meant, and then proceeded to rewrite it however they felt like to make it as flowery as possible. I wouldn't expect the localization to be exactly the "direct translation", but certainly I'd expect it to be a lot closer than it is.

    Reminds me of how some folks dub anime. They get so excited about being able to "put anything they want" instead of, you know, what the character was actually saying. If that's not bad localization, I don't know what is.

    Makes me wonder how much of the rest of the game was actually meant to say something else, but the localization team thought they could do one better than the original author(s).
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  9. #59
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    I have this strong feeling that the reason I can't get some of the Siteseeing clues is the same thing. Some clues don't mention a thing about the weather or time, but they require a very specific weather and/or time. I think Taban is right in that they weren't told what was important, they were just given text and told to localize it.
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
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  11. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    I think Taban is right in that they weren't told what was important, they were just given text and told to localize it.
    That's not any better since it shows the JP writers has more info to go with than the localization team. Without the right info you lack proper context with which to translate, and thus problems arise.
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