Radars in Frontlines and Hunts - Any word from SE?

[Shougun]

They should flood the data with invisible entities with real names making the map unreadable. XD

Really hope they either add it as a feature into the game (last ditch effort), or really go nuts on preventive and proactive measures. Allowing official modding would help move off some of the unofficial modding as well (moves a number of developers to an official process that needn't be worried of). Has it been confirmed if SE has a Warden/VAC like system?

[Tupsi]

I don't condone the radar cheating, but I also don't see what they can do.

They can spawn fake enemies that can only be detected if you're reading memory - They did it in FFXI and it only showed up to people who used Windower and certain plugins that parsed memory. Aside in-game measures they can scan your PC but they'd have to update the EULA/TOS to do so.

[Souljacker]

They can spawn fake enemies that can only be detected if you're reading memory - They did it in FFXI and it only showed up to people who used Windower and certain plugins that parsed memory. Aside in-game measures they can scan your PC but they'd have to update the EULA/TOS to do so.

And quite frankly they don't have the industry clout OR the playerbase to pull that kind of a bait and switch. I'd agree with the random spawning of fake mobs - something, ANYTHING to fix this problem... short of spying on my personal computer tyvm.

[dspguy]

I stand corrected. I guess there is something they could do.

[Alukah]

They can spawn fake enemies that can only be detected if you're reading memory - They did it in FFXI and it only showed up to people who used Windower and certain plugins that parsed memory. Aside in-game measures they can scan your PC but they'd have to update the EULA/TOS to do so.

How exactly did that work in XI? I don't see it working well here, I mean yeah you are able to see the fake enemies in your radar, but the server doesn't know you are able to see them since it's a 3rd party app, SE still cannot know who is able to see them.

[Tupsi]

How exactly did that work in XI? I don't see it working well here, I mean yeah you are able to see the fake enemies in your radar, but the server doesn't know you are able to see them since it's a 3rd party app, SE still cannot know who is able to see them.

It's client side, the only thing server side were the stats/drop information - Which is why in XI for example players removed enemy models in order to claim certain ground kings like Fafnir easier until SE made a server check to see if you still retain all particular dats of a certain zone.

Sadly, XIV's client was (maybe still is) fairly open to the point an IE setting was messing with people's login and could be easily manipulated, you were even able to tell the server to do what you wanted, e.g "Make me level 45" and it'll comply, so the way XIV is designed it'd work pretty easily.

Also, yoshi said recently they do monitor the game very closely, they can easily gather the info they needed since to SE's credit, when they really need to gather info about a certain situation, they will. (Salvage Bans) - If you don't know what happened then, the way that worked can't be detected unless they're closely monitoring the situation.

[Shougun]

How exactly did that work in XI? I don't see it working well here, I mean yeah you are able to see the fake enemies in your radar, but the server doesn't know you are able to see them since it's a 3rd party app, SE still cannot know who is able to see them.

The purpose would be to make the feature useless to use. If you see thousands of fake enemies on your screen - then there is no point to use the radar in the first place. Doesn't help report users but it does mess the feature up, and if thats the best they can get that is what they should do. If they want to get very close to spyware (Warden/VAC like) then that works well and can help stop this stuff, but will probably make a few people very uncomfortable.

[TheRogueX]

There are plenty of options out there, of anti-cheat apps that run with the client app, scanning for known cheat programs and watching the process list for them. For an example, Lineage 2 uses one called hGuard/GameGuard, and has since like 2005. Not sure exactly how well it works, given the amount of botting that still went on there, but it's just an example. Another is WoW and Warden.

[Lucke]

SE should just change Hunts to forced spawns like Treasure Hunts. Obviously the players can't be trusted with open world spawns.