Radars in Frontlines and Hunts - Any word from SE?

[Destain]

I want to reiterate what we announced recently, as our policy regarding third party tools remains unchanged.



We take all reports seriously and we appreciate your cooperation in reporting any issues that you discover.

Hi Grekumah!

With all due respect, it is impossible to prove this without a screen shot posted by the cheating user. Wouldn't the best fix be, given the proof of the radar app, SE make it so marks appear on everyone's mini-map? They did in 1.0 as boss icons so I am sure they could implement it again.

[Kallera]

Hi Grekumah!

With all due respect, it is impossible to prove this without a screen shot posted by the cheating user. Wouldn't the best fix be, given the proof of the radar app, SE make it so marks appear on everyone's mini-map? They did in 1.0 as boss icons so I am sure they could implement it again.

And when the app develops to include other targets or PvP targets, what then?

[AlyssaFhey]

And when the app develops to include other targets or PvP targets, what then?

Already does actually. People have complained about that too. SE seems adamant about not doing anything themselves, pushing all the word to the community. Which is bullshit. I know they can figure out who is using it. Why they aren't doing anything about is simply because they don't want to lose subs. Selfish man. SE is mad selfish, it's pathetic.

[Kallera]

Already does actually. People have complained about that too. SE seems adamant about not doing anything themselves, pushing all the word to the community. Which is bullshit. I know they can figure out who is using it. Why they aren't doing anything about is simply because they don't want to lose subs. Selfish man. SE is mad selfish, it's pathetic.

I've heard. I'm just pointing out that developing functionalities to be similar to a third party app isn't the "everybody wins" solution people think it is, and will only encourage more cheating and exploitation of the software.

[KisaiTenshi]

Hi Grekumah!

With all due respect, it is impossible to prove this without a screen shot posted by the cheating user.

Not true. It's possible for SE to have the game client take a screenshot of suspected activity and be sent to SE. I know of at least one other game that routinely did this, even though it didn't help much. Basically certain actions would trigger a screenshot (mainly zone-switches.) Though in general it's usually the foolish people advertising the fact that they cheat on youtube and tumblr that are going to get caught. They are reporting themselves.

SE could also just apply checksums loop speeds, or randomize the memory used for entities.

[Icehunter]

Not true. It's possible for SE to have the game client take a screenshot of suspected activity and be sent to SE. I know of at least one other game that routinely did this, even though it didn't help much. Basically certain actions would trigger a screenshot (mainly zone-switches.) Though in general it's usually the foolish people advertising the fact that they cheat on youtube and tumblr that are going to get caught. They are reporting themselves.

SE could also just apply checksums loop speeds, or randomize the memory used for entities.

If SE took screenshots of our desktops on a zone switch they would be in so much hot water legally it wouldn't even be funny. Running processes would be a different matter but would still require a ToS change. At least in Canada a opt-in as well because it's illegal to monitor those items here unless expressly agreed to or with a court order.

[KisaiTenshi]

If SE took screenshots of our desktops on a zone switch they would be in so much hot water legally it wouldn't even be funny. Running processes would be a different matter but would still require a ToS change. At least in Canada a opt-in as well because it's illegal to monitor those items here unless expressly agreed to or with a court order.

Have you ever read a game's ToS? They can do anything they want to your computer because you agreed to it during install. That means as long as you are running the game, the game can send any data inside the game window/process back to SE for quality/customer-service/technical reasons. As long as you can report a bug, you can also monitor a user.

What I'm saying is that is a tool SE can use, it doesn't mean that is the best tool. You don't use a hammer when you need a screwdriver so to say.

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[therpgfanatic]

I want to reiterate what we announced recently, as our policy regarding third party tools remains unchanged.



We take all reports seriously and we appreciate your cooperation in reporting any issues that you discover.

That isn't a solution guys. People continue to use parsers and spam the hell out of players to sell gold because you can only punish after the fact, not block the apps from working.

Remove the need for the apps (like built in DPS parsers) and you wont have these problems anymore.

[Jacost]

Good to know that it's at least officially a bannable offence now. If only it was easier to tell that people were using it.

[ForteXX]

Its been officially bannable since the game started. It was also first mentioned directly quite a few months ago.