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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    I want to reiterate what we announced recently, as our policy regarding third party tools remains unchanged.

    We take all reports seriously and we appreciate your cooperation in reporting any issues that you discover.
    I greatly appreciate the reply, Thank you.

    Though honestly, my question was if SE intends to do anything to counteract the cheating.


    From all the information I've gathered, SE is no more able to detect people using these programs than we the players are unless they goof up and mention it in chat. Thus large groups of players only need a small amount of players standing stationary in zones to detect exactly when A and B rank hunts pop up and the general vacinity (about 130 yalms) that they lie in. Thus reducing any small hunting groups window to find and claim A ranks to just a couple minutes unless they join these groups and partake of the ill gotten information.

    These same 3rd party app are also making it impossible to hide while playing frontlines. As it stands, the large amounts of people cheating are making the content completely unenjoyable and near impossible for your entire PS3 and Ps4 playerbase and PC players that have any integrity.

    Are the dev team looking into ways to counteract this behavior whatsoever? A good half of your playerbase would greatly appreciate to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hybris-Maenad View Post
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    I support this.

    We don't need to know what you're going to do, nor how, for obvious reasons. We simply would like to know if you're going to actively fight this (there has been many suggestions about how to do this without Warden/Punkbuster/whatever, and I'm sure that the devs could come with many other ways), or if you'll stay passive and rely only on user reports.

    It's important for some of us. So, please, ask the dev team if they can answer that simple question. Thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hybris-Maenad View Post
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    Very well said - thank you! I support this as well.
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    Majidah Sihaam
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    I want to reiterate what we announced recently, as our policy regarding third party tools remains unchanged.



    We take all reports seriously and we appreciate your cooperation in reporting any issues that you discover.
    Except the PVP community has been reporting wolves dens bots for months now and nothing has ever been done. The bots were many and well known and very public. Was something done about this? Nope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    Except the PVP community has been reporting wolves dens bots for months now and nothing has ever been done. The bots were many and well known and very public. Was something done about this? Nope.
    the only thing I can think of why nothing has been done.

    Those bots are used by people that actually are infront of the pc, runnning FF on a seperate monitor while doing something else and when a GM tell comes they answer. or do less obvious bot things
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    Are you gonna ban thousands of people then right?
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailish_Chibi View Post
    Are you gonna ban thousands of people then right?
    Well, time to see if the "Millions of subscriptions" actually means something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailish_Chibi View Post
    Are you gonna ban thousands of people then right?
    Only the cheaters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailish_Chibi View Post
    Are you gonna ban thousands of people then right?
    It's much MUCH more than that from what I heard.

    Also; to point to other comments in the thread. A G15 keyboard will get you banned for using automated macros. The ToS itself is very broad. Another user in this forum got suspended because he made a bug fix post on how-to fix client crashes by modifying your config file to remove a badly named tab.

    The mods said he violated the terms of service by modifying game data. Kids under 18? They can't use your account and they can't register for their own so that's also a violation.

    Not defending any program at this point; just saying they really have the right to do whatever they want, when they want and how they want if they really wanted an excuse to ban someone. No program however is illegal "law" wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailish_Chibi View Post
    Are you gonna ban thousands of people then right?
    We do need a ban on the scale of the Salvage bans in XI in 2009 - So much..beauty in the "I don't cheat" crowd running to the boards asking if people got randomly banned by SE only for them to later state that they banned people for exploiting Salvage.
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