Hunts are a problem

[Zarzak]

Yes, and it's up to SE to stop them whether those people like it or not.

No its up to SE to provide us quality content and stop pandering to the lowest common denominator.

I too, who have complaints about the hunts, have not beaten T5 nor ever set foot in second coil. I thought this would be a normal, non-static crazed way to get a few upgrades to my soldiery gear.

So, far after a week of particpating in hunts, I'm sitting on 166 seals, while I see hardcore raiders zerging every hunt possible, and walking around in 4-6 pieces of upgraded gear and weapons.

Are you solo? Have you joined a hunt ls?

While I hate the system there's literally 0 advantage being "hardcore raiders" in hunts. All you do is sit in a random zone "hunting" (While in actuality your working on your animus books ^_^) in a full hunt group. And when your LS or one of theirs does a <pos> you port wherever they say and follow the crowd. Soon as its pulled do things and huzzah.

Being a healer makes it easy mode btw. poke it once (aero is a good one for sch and whm since it has front loaded dmg so even if there is no room for the dot you will still hit it) then spam group heals until it's dead.

[Nukocafe]

I'm all for running content for fun and challenge, but finding groups for him right now is like pulling teeth, and it's hard to convince many of my friends to run him because, well, hunts.

I think the problem is Ramuh is deceptively difficult. People think it's easier than Leviathan or Titan because you don't fall off...but I've beaten titan with someone eating dirt below but even 1 death in Ramuh right now will cause a wipe because the lack of DPS will not get you past the ads phase. Without voice chat its very difficult and your group has to be a perfectly coordinated marching band to clear it on top of having well geared DPS. Our group with an average ilvl of 96 had a very hard time and we've yet to clear it. I haven't even dont any real hunts (i've yet to see an S rank) but I don't feel like going back to Ramuh until my ilvl goes up to 100 at least.

[Mature]

Like I say we agree to desagree.I'm only taking from what I have observed. Plus 2.4 is round the corner ilvl110 is gonna be so last year. There's a reason why sands (cause that's people's issue) are so "easy" to get. Yoship ain't daft

[Karyou]

Like I say we agree to desagree.I'm only taking from what I have observed. Plus 2.4 is round the corner ilvl110 is gonna be so last year. There's a reason why sands (cause that's people's issue) are so "easy" to get. Yoship ain't daft

Of course we can agree to disagree, but that doesn't mean I won't respond when I do disagree. So long as this thread stays civil, I'm fine hearing from both sides.

2.4 is in 3-4 months, I don't really consider that "round the corner". I don't want to put up with 4 months of this nonsense.

[L-D-Omlette]

Can we please stop calling for a cap on allied seals? Capping them now will only provide an advantage to those that have been grinding them for the last week. Sands/oils are only as useful as the gear they can be applied to. The availability of this gear is already capped. If you have nothing of relevance to purchase what point is there to grinding out seals?

Think long term, those that are burning through this to "catch up" on their upgrades will be done soon enough, and will have little incentive to continue to do it.

[Kagari_Asuha]

Can we please stop calling for a cap on allied seals? Capping them now will only provide an advantage to those that have been grinding them for the last week. Sands/oils are only as useful as the gear they can be applied to. The availability of this gear is already capped. If you have nothing of relevance to purchase what point is there to grinding out seals?

Think long term, those that are burning through this to "catch up" on their upgrades will be done soon enough, and will have little incentive to continue to do it.

Consider that most people doing hunts already have full soldiery gear already.

[L-D-Omlette]

Consider that most people doing hunts already have full soldiery gear already.

Which is exactly my point. They are going to finish their upgrades and not bother with hunts until they buy their next piece of soldiery for an alt, of which they can buy 1 per week.

Not to mention capping seals would put a cap on vanity gear. That doesn't make any sense...

If you want to cap something, cap the number of sands/oils you can buy, or remove them from this vendor.

[Karyou]

Think long term, those that are burning through this to "catch up" on their upgrades will be done soon enough, and will have little incentive to continue to do it.

I think that's looking at it too idealistically. It's not hard to get Soldiery now so people are always going to want to farm this until soldiery/oils is no longer useful and that's not going to be another 4 months at the least, 7-8 months more likely.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Are you solo? Have you joined a hunt ls?

Yes, I'm actually a member of one fairly large one, and a member of a new, smaller hunt LS.

I'll give you an example. Last night, the locations were being called out about every 5-10 minutes. Every single time, I immediately ported to where the LS's called the monster out. Exactly twice, I was quickly able to join a group and get credit. Every other time, the moster was obliterated before I arrived at the scene.

[ispano]

But I'm in the smart minority. Because once you realize that this Ilvl will soon be obsolete again, you'll kick yourself for wasting all those marks on old content.

But it won't be obsolete right away. Even when 2.4 hits and new Coil and Tome items come out, you won't be decked out in the right away. You still have the lockout on Coil and the weekly Tome Limit. i110 stuff, ie the stuff people are chasing like rabid dogs, will still be valid for a while AFTER 2.4.