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    KingOfAbyss's Avatar
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    July 21th - Future of FFXIV - Atma vs Hunts

    Hi everyone ^^

    Seems these days Atmas Threads are close to be done for - replaced by the wonderful Hunts!

    Now don't get me wrong here: Even if that was 'tossed' in the game without much thinking (bad implementation process) - The Idea is wonderful, and I love it.

    I hope Yoshida will talk about it on his newsletter coming next week.

    1- What are the plans to adjust it to make it more balanced.

    2- Adjust the rewards so that people might see a need to get into Coil again.

    3- Tell us about that so-called Radar 3rd Apps, if it's acceptable, or not.

    3a) if not - will you do a rollback to make it fair to everyone, or ban or remove the allied seals on those you find that used it (I've read you cannot detect the users)
    3b) if yes - then let's all use it! (PS users - you might have to get into parties as it seems you are the lucky few that cannot cheat or use apps)

    So my post is to help making this clear and just for everyone.

    Thank you for your time.

    (I'll try to post these questions on the thread for the Live Letter)
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    The Grammar Nazi in me wants to point out that it should be 21st, not 21th.

    Aside from that, it would be great to have an official response to the Hunt fiasco. Even just a "working as planned, not changing anything" would be better than silence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacost View Post
    The Grammar Nazi in me wants to point out that it should be 21st, not 21th.

    Aside from that, it would be great to have an official response to the Hunt fiasco. Even just a "working as planned, not changing anything" would be better than silence.
    Way to point out his speech impediment.
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    I'm confused. Why would people not do coil now? Why would you want I110 gear for if its not to down coil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    I'm confused. Why would people not do coil now? Why would you want I110 gear for if its not to down coil?
    To look l337 ofc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    I'm confused. Why would people not do coil now? Why would you want I110 gear for if its not to down coil?
    Still makes it easier to speedrun other content and also for ePeenz even tho im a girl.

    I sure hope they find the radar thing an abuse of the game or ToS :/ Its not a hunt otherwise. (Besides, theres still shout and linkshells to listen out for if people still dont want to get up n search, or simply look out for masses of players huddled near a NM/Elite)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    I'm confused. Why would people not do coil now? Why would you want I110 gear for if its not to down coil?
    To be a boss, duh. Not everybody does coil. But having upgraded gear does make all of the other content easier to do to some extent.

    Plus we're likely going to need the higher ilvl gear for newer content. The expansion time is getting closer and closer and I don't know, but personally I kind of hope they stop raising the ilvl and leave it at i110/115 for a while, at least another 3-6 months. Then we can have some new content that actually requires a higher ilvl that isn't just Coil and select primal fights.

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    Oh, and to the OP. I sincerely hope they don't do a rollback like you're suggesting. That would be horrible thing and while yeah it would be a slap in the face to the cheaters, it would be an even bigger slap in the face to those of us who haven't cheated and have gotten seals.
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    Last edited by Ecks007; 07-18-2014 at 12:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecks007 View Post
    Oh, and to the OP. I sincerely hope they don't do a rollback like you're suggesting. That would be horrible thing and while yeah it would be a slap in the face to the cheaters, it would be an even bigger slap in the face to those of us who haven't cheated and have gotten seals.
    They wouldn't roll back at this point; it's not damaging enough in the short term and otherwise they've let it fester too long. If they do anything they're more likely to nerf rewards - that is if they do anything at all other than band-aid the system so it's easier to participate. Of course that implicitly confirms another significant item level increase with 2.4 (though it's unlikely that was ever in question) that would depreciate and 'self-correct' rewards for The Hunt.

    Not exactly a way to handle it that I agree with, but I can see the rationale. It would be in line with any content-easing that has been also implied to be coming with the next item level increase (ie easing Atma, etc).
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    Last edited by Mitternacht; 07-18-2014 at 12:47 AM. Reason: lol, length

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    I highly doubt there will be a rollback this point. It would outrage too much of the community to a point the SE doesn't want to go to.
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    The sum of all hunt arguments over early pullers: http://goo.gl/IFT9IE

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    My personal opinion is that if they were to nerf the rewards now, it would punish players who are legit hunters making it even harder for them, as the cheaters have already gotten all they need so even if they nerf it now it would make no difference to them. Rollback is also not an option, cause like mentioned, there are many players who actually legitimately farmed for their seals. The only thing they can do now is damage control either by

    1. Capping seals per week
    2. Increase daily hunt rewards to match weekly ones
    3. Allow seals to be acquired from more than just hunts (i.e. Frontlines, coil, ST, dailies etc) <-- personally I favor this
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