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    From what I saw with the bow, I would only use it if you didn't have a Crab Bow +2 or higher. +3>+2>Uldhan Longbow>+1>NQ Crab Bow.

    And I would consider it debatable even against a Crab Bow +1. Uldhan Longbow has slightly more att/crit then Crab+1, but slightly less acc. Not even sure how much those slight differences matter.
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    I'd assume a slower (higher attack) bow works better with Multishot and Trifurcate than a faster bow, due to their nature. Does attack affect WS's in any noticeable way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotah View Post
    I'd assume a slower (higher attack) bow works better with Multishot and Trifurcate than a faster bow, due to their nature. Does attack affect WS's in any noticeable way?
    This sounds correct.
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    Verdant bow is better than crab bow+3 and ul'dhan bow, just for one reason, best accuracy and the delay is 3.5sec while crab bow is 4sec and ul'dhan is 4.2, in the long run the verdant will outdamage both (a lot less miss and hits faster)

    Not all is brute damage in my op.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elreed View Post
    Verdant bow is better than crab bow+3 and ul'dhan bow, just for one reason, best accuracy and the delay is 3.5sec while crab bow is 4sec and ul'dhan is 4.2, in the long run the verdant will outdamage both (a lot less miss and hits faster)

    Not all is brute damage in my op.
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    The damage is based on the delay.
    Your attack value is in fact a damage over time value, not a raw damage output.
    Otherwise my Gladiator would be a DPS God with 2,4s Delay and 160+ attack weapons.

    BTT:
    Crab Bow +3 > Crab Bow +2 > Uldah/Verdant > Crab Bow +1

    Or you think that 20 HP is more important than 15acc
    A Crab Bow +2 has the same att but much lower acc than the Uldahn Longbow
    A Crab Bow +2 has the same acc but much lower att than the Verdant Bow

    A Crab Bow +2 is always batter than both.

    All Rank 50 NM weapons are on a "rank 50 +0.5-1" level with few extra stats.
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    Last edited by Jabo; 08-09-2011 at 08:33 AM.

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    Crab bow looks s*** imo, so I'll use one of the others..
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    Crab+2 is slightly better than the Uldah bow. I have both and tested them.
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    I use crab+2 over the uldah over the verdant

    i have all 3. even though verdant is faster it does way less damage.. sure it attacks faster but with all the buffs inbetween the slightly longer delay works better for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanos View Post
    I use crab+2 over the uldah over the verdant

    i have all 3. even though verdant is faster it does way less damage.. sure it attacks faster but with all the buffs inbetween the slightly longer delay works better for me
    yah, I am not always hitting lightshot as soon as its up due to a bunch of other factors, so the delay doesn't really matter much IMO.
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    the usually sequence

    light shot -> nock arrow -> ferocity -> heavy shot -> nock arrow -> raging strike -> hawk eye -> light shot (fully nocked)

    repeat

    if trifucate is up blah blah u get the point
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