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    Note on the Verdant Bow. It and the Sword are obtained through the still unobtained 5th chest from Batraal. Those are the only two items that no one has yet to find and no one has figured out how to get Batraals fifth chest. It's a short bow so it will have a faster rate of fire. All of its base stats are higher than a base crab bow plus the bonuses. With +18 more acc than the crab bow you can throw away your acc rings and go all str or att bonus and along with rate of fire should trump the other bows.
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    Last edited by JunkPunch; 07-30-2011 at 02:54 AM.

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    Crabbow +3 (+15% to affected stats rounded)
    Att: 146
    Acc: 190
    Critical: 135

    Verdant Bow (stats as stated)
    Att:128
    Acc: 182
    Crit: 121

    Not really even a comparison between the high tier HQ Crab bow and the Dungeon Drop, crab bow just owns it.

    Issue is you need to +2/3 Crab Bow to beat out the Uldah Bow and V.Bow. Which tends to be somewhat expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    Crabbow +3 (+15% to affected stats rounded)
    Att: 146
    Acc: 190
    Critical: 135

    Verdant Bow (stats as stated)
    Att:128
    Acc: 182
    Crit: 121

    Not really even a comparison between the high tier HQ Crab bow and the Dungeon Drop, crab bow just owns it.
    I disagree. Verdant delay is 3.5, Crab delay is 4.0. That means the DoT is basically the same between Verdant and Crab +3. Acc would be better on Crab, but wouldn't you get more TP with the Verdant?
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    Assuming you aren't resetting the AA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet View Post
    I disagree. Verdant delay is 3.5, Crab delay is 4.0. That means the DoT is basically the same between Verdant and Crab +3. Acc would be better on Crab, but wouldn't you get more TP with the Verdant?
    The damage is based on the delay.
    Your attack value is in fact a damage over time value, not a raw damage output.
    Otherwise my Gladiator would be a DPS God with 2,4s Delay and 160+ attack weapons.

    BTT:
    Crab Bow +3 > Crab Bow +2 > Uldah/Verdant > Crab Bow +1

    Or you think that 20 HP is more important than 15acc
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    Last edited by Jabo; 08-09-2011 at 08:02 AM.

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    Lots of the time you aren't even using Light Shot on cool down due to popping other abilities (Second Wind, Invigorate, or whatnot)

    Multishot and Trifucate benefit a lot more from higher ATK bows too.
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    As someone who has tested the ul dah and crab +3/2/1 the order is:

    crab+3>crab+2>ul dah > verdant > crab+1

    The hard math pretty much sums it up:
    Crab bow +3
    Att: 146 (127-base)
    Acc: 190 (165-base)
    Critical: 135 (117-base)

    Crab bow +2
    Att: 140 (127-base)
    Acc: 182 (165-base)
    Critical: 129 (117-base)

    Ul'dahn Longbow
    Att: 141
    Acc: 166
    Critical: 128

    Verdant Bow
    Att:128
    Acc: 182
    Crit: 121
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    idk about the bow from NM
    im arc and i want the bow > crab bow
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    Crab bow +3 is still best because of the way DD tends to do damage. They spike damage by stacking buffs and so a higher base attack is what is needed. Delay doesn't really matter as much because you have so many abilities to use in-between shots. Accuracy is the other stat that really matters.
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