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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    THREE MORE TO GO!

    Oh my god am I the only one STILL doing this?!

    I swear yesterday someone in coil scoffed "look he's still wielding bravura lol!"
    You know it's not like it's up to me when the damn things are going to drop or not regardless of how many weeks I've now spent in the remaining zones!

    The fact that YOU got lucky does not mean it's reasonable to expect everyone can win the lottery.
    I started recording exactly how much time it takes me to get my Atma (my last 7 on my SCH took 19 hours, 21 minutes). The way I'm recording is I set the time I start and count all the time in between, hitting every single fate I can make it to. That means watching the map like hawk. I'll update when I finish collecting the next 10 for Ninja Atma (currently at 2/12 with 1h43m elapsed).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    I started recording exactly how much time it takes me to get my Atma (my last 7 on my SCH took 19 hours, 21 minutes). The way I'm recording is I set the time I start and count all the time in between, hitting every single fate I can make it to. That means watching the map like hawk. I'll update when I finish collecting the next 10 for Ninja Atma (currently at 2/12 with 1h43m elapsed).


    Finally finished regrinding all Atma;
    Total Time: 22h18m
    Total fates: 361+*

    *Forgot to record number of fates for first two.
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    1st atma set for MNK took an ungodly amount of time nearly 2 months of off and on. Got the last one 4 days before E3 announcement of Ninja (which i wanna main) and spent them on MNK relic. I swore never again. 4 days later they announced NIN for 2.4. I wanted to *headesk* my self into a coma. But on Monday of this week i said what tha hay...i have 3 months to get a 2nd set why not at least start now....getting Atma of the Goat 1st (which took the longest my 1st set) fairly quick this time around. Becoming obsessed w/ getting all 12 again i got the last one tonight. so 5ish days of constant FATEs and determination. Now im the proud owner of 12 new shiney atma that will sit in my retainer waiting for 2.4, all b/c i did not give up. Keep at it, ull never know when ur luck will turn for the good.
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    Oh i feel ya Seif. I hate this atma crap. Insert the usual "oh there are alternatives" crap arguments etc. I'm doing this because i want it, i do also want the alternatives, and i will get them. In fact when i finish with the mindless drool inducing crap that is this RNG, i'm going back to kicking the crap out of extremes and coil just for that very reason lol.

    2 to go, was on a roll for a few days there, but back to fervently praying every time i do a fate and hoping to get the bloody atma. Sort it out square, this many posts and threads on this shocking system can't go ignored forever.
    (on a side note, a friend started his atma last night, got 3 atma in 3 hours, including one in a zone i've spent days on with nothing happening. Fair? lol.)
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    Most people have either completely given up on it or are currently grinding for Novus.
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    Was doing atma grind last night. Got two fairly quick (within an hour). Then tried my luck in Upper La Noscea. Spent 4 hours and only missed MAYBE 3 fates because they were on opposite sides, and not 1 drop. Is it just Upper La Noscea that has this poor drop rates? Or have I just been super unlucky?
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    Thesis: ATMA hunting needs to be improved.

    Supporting facts:
    - Some players get them in a reasonable period, some do not. It is mathematically gauranteed to make some players spend vastly longer amounts of time. This disparity is then multiplied x12.
    - Two of my friends spent one hour farming Atmas and then quit FF. I have not seem them since. They said specifically that a game with that kind of system is not for them.
    - Hunting level 2-10 FATES is a poor reward for leveling up to 50 and collecting higher level gear.
    - SE has not addressed this issue and actively deletes threads that criticize it. You know you have a problem when you have to repeatedly censor criticism. It hasn't gone away, has it?

    Posting here is this least I can do to make sure SE still know that Atma will continue to damage the population of FFXIV until it is fixed.

    All that is needed is a hard cap to how many FATES you can complete before you get a drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smashington View Post
    They said specifically that a game with that kind of system is not for them.
    So, MMOs aren't for them then?

    The Atma system will have it's drop rate improved later in the development cycle; right now SE's said that they're satisfied with the number of people who are getting Atma weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smashington View Post
    - Some players get them in a reasonable period, some do not. It is mathematically gauranteed to make some players spend vastly longer amounts of time.
    This is the biggest part I don't like about it. Getting atma isn't about how much time you spent in getting it, it's about how lucky you are.
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    If they cant do coil, just ST(aka CT2) til tomestone drop, hunt for sands, get 1300 soldiery and SHAZAM! i110 weap
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