This is MMO, not single player. Go play with party. Simple as that.A few days ago I killed the S Rank in Coerthas and admittedly I didn't get there until it was about 40-45% dead so I wasn't expecting the full rewards, so it dies and I get 5 Allied Seals, 20 Myth and 0 Soldiery (I was capped) and I was fine with that result as it was also going in and out of view from the volume of players (On PC btw... this shouldn't be happening still.)
So, I just got done downing the S Rank in Northern Thanalan (Minhocao) and even after wailing on him for the entire duration of his life.... what did I get for it?
5 Allied Seals, 20 Myth, 5 Soldiery...
What? How? Why?
I'd have gotten far more by killing an A Rank from 50% onwards! Heck I'd have gotten more Myth from killing a damn B Rank from 50% onwards!
So why in the hell do S Ranks refuse to give a decent reward despite full participation?!
Except, he wasn't alone, he was with tons of other people. He just didn't get a party invite. If there isn't a party in PF, it can be really hard to get an invite.
Another point - what happens when there's a B rank monster (or even an A) at an off time and nine people show up, or seventeen. One person will be SOL because no matter how much they contribute, because they can't join either party, they're going to get nothing. Fighting with others SHOULD be a requirement for full contribution. Being IN A PARTY with others shouldn't be required. It's not "solo play" or "single player" to MT a fate mob and have a bunch of people healing you without you being in the party, nor to go around healing everyone you see, or even just the MT. None of these things alone can win you the fight, or involve only you. But, hunts do not consider them to be "contributing" as much as someone in a party, but just autoattacking while afk.
And to the point of "parties help tanks/healers because they're at a disadvantage to DPS if everyone is unpartied," that's BS. Contribution is based on enmity (or at least it is for Fates, and I don't see why this would be different). Healers can generate tons of enmity by spamming heals. Heck, they can get tons of contribution by just spamming their biggest heal on the MT without being careful about overhealing. Tanks get massive enmity modifiers on their combos and, by definition, generate more enmity than DPS (or else they wouldn't be able to tank).
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Was there for the S rank in Mor Dhona yesterday.
Got to it with about 80% HP left, my friend was already there from my party. Took a while to actually kill him. Got 5 seals. FIVE.
THATS ONLY FIVE SEALS ON AN S RANK. On top of him disappearing, they did not make getting credit "easier". If anything, it's harder.
If it was just you and your friend the party was too small. I've soloed a few B's from full hp and got nothing. It's like everyone else says. Gotta be in a party with more than yourself and one other person. And yeah I know your feel,it's like Odin and Behemoth they appear and vanish.Was there for the S rank in Mor Dhona yesterday.
Got to it with about 80% HP left, my friend was already there from my party. Took a while to actually kill him. Got 5 seals. FIVE.
THATS ONLY FIVE SEALS ON AN S RANK. On top of him disappearing, they did not make getting credit "easier". If anything, it's harder.
4 of us in that party actually. But that's besides the point. What if only two are able to get in a party and the trains comes. I can't get full credit because 50 other full parties get there and zerg it.If it was just you and your friend the party was too small. I've soloed a few B's from full hp and got nothing. It's like everyone else says. Gotta be in a party with more than yourself and one other person. And yeah I know your feel,it's like Odin and Behemoth they appear and vanish.
Nothing to do with being in a party. You either have to tag or do 30% of the damage (including party damage) to get full credit. On my server there are so many parties showing up not all the parties even can get full credit.
Poor design is poor design.
It can't be tagging then cause I've solo'd and got next to nothing with no one else around.
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