Required Rank vs Optimal Rank

[giftforce]

So now that I posess a few of these newfangled 'required rank' items (which weren't even crafted by the way ... but that's an issue for another thread), I must say it's kind of annoying having to re-equip them everytime I change class. I have to reevaluate my wardrobe even If I'm just ranking up something casually (like out of boredom or something).

I don't see what was wrong with the Optimal Rank system. I honestly don't. Under the optimal rank system, you were gimped if you wore something outside of the optimal rank range. Now of course you are not only gimp, but you are gimp and naked.

And it's also time-consuming. For example, nowdays, if you want to repair someone's gear, youdon't just equip your tool and repair and then go back to equipping your weapon and be off on your merry way. No, those days are gone! Now there's an additional step of re-equipping all your Required-Rank items. It's so annoying and such a pointless system, considering Optimal Rank was perfect the way it was.

Great.

[Arcell]

The problem with the optimal rank system is that it was incredibly vague about stat penalties and people were too stupid to follow optimal rank. People asked for rank requirements because they couldn't choose to not wear gear until optimal rank on their own.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

Wow, gifthorse/vesperia/giftforce is running out of things to complain about.

[giftforce]

Wow, gifthorse/vesperia/giftforce is running out of things to complain about.

How am I complaining? You may see complaints about the Required Rank system, but all I see is praise for the original Optimal Rank system.

[AdvancedWind]

Wow, gifthorse/vesperia/giftforce is running out of things to complain about.

Except this one is probably one of his most valid complains.

Personally, I prefer the optimal rank system, that just needs a few tweaks (such as properly showing the reduction of stats when using non-optimal items) and using class / rank requirements on VERY specific / VERY rare gear such as Job gear, instead of pretty much every rare/ex item.

[MattyWS]

Because no one wants to get to rank 50 GLA with their cool looking GLA armour just to see some stupid little taru rank 1 CON walk past wearing it too. It's stupid.

[giftforce]

Because no one wants to get to rank 50 GLA with their cool looking GLA armour just to see some stupid little taru rank 1 CON walk past wearing it too. It's stupid.

Well maybe you love rules, but some people like to just enjoy wearing what they want.

If the accomplishment of getting to R50 wasn't enough for you, and nor was obtaining those pieces of equipment (which the R1 lalafell would need to obtain as well), then maybe there's something more wrong with the game than the Optimal Rank system.

[AdvancedWind]

Because no one wants to get to rank 50 GLA with their cool looking GLA armour just to see some stupid little taru rank 1 CON walk past wearing it too. It's stupid.

1 - What others wears have no effect on your actual gameplay. Really, I can't see a problem in the fact that someone out there is *gasp* using a Vintage Haubergeon on their lower level classes. What a crime against humanity.

2 - if he has that gear it most likely means that he worked for it, so even that kind of argument is void.

[kukurumei]

1 - What others wears have no effect on your actual gameplay. Really, I can't see a problem in the fact that someone out there is *gasp* using a Vintage Haubergeon on their lower level classes. What a crime against humanity.

2 - if he has that gear it most likely means that he worked for it, so even that kind of argument is void.

Not really. A little coin or hand me down, and it's yours, and it ruins the economy as well, as you have no reusability.

It's a decently bad system in the long run. Nice idea, badly thought out. It needs to feel so bad , there is no way a lvl 1 would ever want to wear that lvl 50 for example.

[AdvancedWind]

Not really. A little coin or hand me down, and it's yours, and it ruins the economy as well, as you have no reusability.

It's a decently bad system in the long run. Nice idea, badly thought out. It needs to feel so bad , there is no way a lvl 1 would ever want to wear that lvl 50 for example.

There will always be people handing out itens / giving to their subs / etc and the effect of that practice on the economy is the same regardless of the player receiving actually being able to use the item or not.

The main point of the optimal rank / class system is to make it easier to change class on the fly (IE, one of the selling points of XIV) and restraining this ability IS a bad thing.

The dev team should be striving to increase the usability of that system with things like saving gear and ability sets and implementing at least a few endgame items with "suits:all" property (of course not as good as the more specialized ones), instead of gimping that system with tons of restricted items that will require the player to lose even more inventory space to hold all his gear if he happens to play on more than one class (AKA, pretty much everyone).

I personally wouldn't mind having a main, class and rank restricted set for my Thaumaturge and a secondary, high level "suits:all" equipment for my other classes in case I need to change class for whatever reason, instead of having a completely different set for every class and rank I may be leveling. Preventing that kind of annoyance is another advantage of the optimal class / rank system.