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  1. #1
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    Malzian's Avatar
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    Kylrin Arresard
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 90
    I'll raid. I want to raid. I haven't done it yet since I haven't found a group of people I'd want to do it with. For some it's about the thrill of completing it, the rewards are a bonus. Either way though... Running with people I can't have fun with isn't worth it to me. My opinion, others may differ.
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    The sum of all hunt arguments over early pullers: http://goo.gl/IFT9IE

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    Evangela's Avatar
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Ninja Lv 90
    then they need to nerf BCoB T5 first, in order to let more ppl enter SCoB.

    endgame content in general is too hard for 90% of the players. don't use yourself and your FC friends as a standard. I think it's very dumb to create new content that only 5-10% of the playerbase can do. ok let's make half of the content super hard to make 10% of the players keep subscribing and screw the other 90% who can't enjoy these content because they're bad players!! I don't think it's gonna work in the long-term. so having optional i110 gears for casuals is the right thing to do.
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    Josh Tribal
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    then they need to nerf BCoB T5 first, in order to let more ppl enter SCoB.

    endgame content in general is too hard for 90% of the players. don't use yourself and your FC friends as a standard. I think it's very dumb to create new content that only 5-10% of the playerbase can do. ok let's make half of the content super hard to make 10% of the players keep subscribing and screw the other 90% who can't enjoy these content because they're bad players!! I don't think it's gonna work in the long-term. so having optional i110 gears for casuals is the right thing to do.
    Evangela, do you need a T5 clear? Serious question, I love running T5 and we are on the same server xD
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    Jakeson's Avatar
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    Jelly Nightschool
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    I'm excited because it might make T6 and maybe T7 puggable. I know statics can do it at i90 but pugging at i100 or i105 will just make it easier on the tanks and healers and make things a bit more forgiving. I remember when i90 was max and I could find a pug group for T1 and T2, sometimes T4...that's all I really want for T6 and T7.
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    Eissels's Avatar
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    Faedra Braddock
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTribal View Post
    Evangela, do you need a T5 clear? Serious question, I love running T5 and we are on the same server xD
    So uh, sorry to Hijack, but uh... Can...Can I get in on this? c.c;;

    My FC has been focused on other things. ;w;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eissels View Post
    So uh, sorry to Hijack, but uh... Can...Can I get in on this? c.c;;

    My FC has been focused on other things. ;w;
    Send me a tell when I'm on and I can try to set something up
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  7. #7
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    Zarzak's Avatar
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    Zarzak Tigerspirit
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    then they need to nerf BCoB T5 first, in order to let more ppl enter SCoB.

    endgame content in general is too hard for 90% of the players. don't use yourself and your FC friends as a standard. I think it's very dumb to create new content that only 5-10% of the playerbase can do. ok let's make half of the content super hard to make 10% of the players keep subscribing and screw the other 90% who can't enjoy these content because they're bad players!! I don't think it's gonna work in the long-term. so having optional i110 gears for casuals is the right thing to do.
    No. This is the EASIEST end game content any remotely successful MMO has had pretty much ever.

    The ONLY things people have to do to beat T5 is

    1. move when Twintania starts casting the spell known as "twister"
    2. move under twin if you have a conflag symbol on your head
    3. move to the marked spot if you have a fireball on your head (or not move at all if you do that strat)
    4. move when Twintania starts to cast divebomb


    I'm sorry but this "people can't do the content because it's too hard" excuse isn't going to fly. If someone can't beat this simple event with 20% stats AND a extra 10+ ilvls (aka healing, tanking, and dps is no issue and the only thing to do is follow 4 mechanics) then they aren't simply bad. They aren't even trying. Takes more coordination to drive yourself to work in the morning. "omg a red circle on that light what do I do!?!?!?!?!"

    For your benefit though I will provide a step by step set of instructions for Turn 5.

    Step 1: Tanks engage pick one of the adds and do your rotation until it dies.
    Step 2: move to another add and repeat.
    Step 3: move to the last add and repeat.
    Step 4: move to Twintania and do your rotation
    Step 5: Collar piece falls off. Hold until someone gets a red triangle over their head. If you go to step 6a. If not go to step 6b.
    Step 6a: Move to designated fireball drop point (likely a pile of pets/OT or a stack of dps on your assigned side)
    Step 6b: Move to Twintania and continue your rotation.
    Step 6: Blue circle goes out on someone's head. If you go to step 7a. If not go to 7b.
    Step 7a: Move under twintania in the middle of her target ring.
    Step 7b: Take a couple steps back to ensure you do not end up inside conflag. Target and dps conflag once it appears.
    Step 8: DPS conflag until someone gets a red triangle over their head. If you go to step 9a. If not go to step 9b.
    Step 9a: Move to designated fireball drop point (likely a pile of pets/OT or a stack of dps on your assigned side)
    Step 9b: Continue dpsing conflag until it dies.
    Step 10: Once conflag is dead go back to dpsing Twin.
    Step 11: Blue circle goes out on someone's head. If you go to step 12a. If not go to 12b.
    Step 12a: Move under twintania in the middle of her target ring.
    Step 12b: Take a couple steps back to ensure you do not end up inside conflag. Target and dps conflag once it appears. This is a short conflag pop short burns and dps conflag until it dies.
    Step 13: repeat Steps 6-12 until a 2nd collar piece drops.
    Step 14: Move to divebomb position (designated before pull)
    Step 15: When green circle appears (or if you have Twin on focus as soon as she appears back on focus target) run forward 10 steps.
    Step 16: Move back to divebomb position.
    Step 17: Repeat steps 15 and 16 two more times.
    Step 18: Target large snake in middle and while positioning at divebomb position dps for 45 seconds.
    Step 19: Repeat steps 15 and 16 two more times while continuing to dps large snake.
    Step 20: Repeat step 15 but this time continue running forward following the tanks and dpsing the large snake.
    Step 21: Kill large snake. (don't worry about small snakes Mr. Melee the casters will handle them)
    Step 22: stand in one of the previously dropped collar pieces until Twin finishes her cast.
    Step 23: Attack Twin until she begins to cast Twister.
    Step 24: Once twister begins casting run without crossing your own or anyone elses path until cast finishes.
    Step 25: Go back to dpsing Twin while avoiding any green markers on the ground you may see.
    Step 26: Dreadknight will spawn in the middle of the room. Run away from it until it has picked its target. If you go to step 27a. If not go to 27b.
    Step 27a: Your stun locked. Enjoy the break to regen some TP and cheer your fellow dps on for keeping you from dying a horrible death.
    Step 27b: One of your friends is stun locked!!!! Shoulder Tackle or Jump to that mean Dreadknight and kill it before your poor friend meets an untimely death.
    Step 28: Repeat steps 23-27 until the final piece of collar drops.
    Step 29: No more of those annoying twisters or Dreadknights! DPS twintania to victory! If she starts shooting fireballs at you see Step 30.
    Step 30: FIRE RUN!!!!!!! (until it stops at least then back to Step 29!)
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    Belcross Panda
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    Famfrit
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
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    I don't recall many FCs destroying twintania prior to the nerf.
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  9. #9
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    Zarzak Tigerspirit
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Skander View Post
    who might not be performing quite to your standards.
    The problem with people is not that they don't perform to other raiders standards. They don't perform to the standards of these undertuned events.

    Could fill a small country with people who can't manage things like "look away when you have voice and don't stand near other people and get fireballed"

    or even better a small country of people in ilvl 100 gear who are pulling 200 dps.
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    Edli Papami
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    No. This is the EASIEST end game content any remotely successful MMO has had pretty much ever.
    Bullcrap! If it is oh so easy like you say it is then how come nobody could beat twin for ages in the beginning? I remember well the threads where people actually settled on the fact that twin was unkillable and wait for new gear sets to come out.

    The easiest endgame content out of every MMO? Don't exaggerate so much. You think we haven't played these other MMOs?
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