Who is gonna raid now with the iLvl 110 gear handed to people??

[Brine_Gildchaff]

Soldiery isn't. Soldiery + sand/oil is.

ilvl 110 = raid tier gear this isn't hard to figure out.

Soldiery gear is not raid gear and never has been. Sands and oils were planned from the beginning to be available through routes other than Coil. Why are you complaining about having two MONTHS where you got to have this gear before everyone else? Or are you one of those strange people who complained that nobody would do Coil because people would just buy all myth gear back in 2.0/2.1?

What higher stats? You get the same tier of gear if you sit in town and follow the <pos> calls.

First off, no you don't. If you just sit idle until someone shouts and then you zone in and run to the mob, at -least- two times out of three you're going to get there just when the mob has finished dying. If you're not actively hunting with others you're not getting jack doodly sh**. Second, the majority of BiS gear is in fact High Allagan. Case in point: I looked through ariyala and chose my BiS gear for paladin and white mage. I currently require five sands -total- to upgrade them, and four oils (I've gotten one of each so far). Everything else I am going to have to fill in with High Allagan, supplementing with Syrcus gear until I can manage a raid. You do NOT have the best gear in the game purely by hunting.

[Velhart]

It is kind of ridiculous the mind set of some in here. Its like if Kingdom Hearts 3 had another fight with Sephiroth and it will be a 1 on 1 battle again, and if you beat him you get one of the most powerful keyblades in the game. Or if you don't feel like doing that, you can go out and kill 5000 of certain heartless and get it that way, not having to fight him at all.

It's just one man's way of taking the easy way out of stepping up to the challenge and try to justify it by making excuses of casual pace. Raids are set up to allow casual pacing in this game, there really isn't an excuse for that. It basically boils down to is "Its too difficult, I want an easier way to get stuff as good as a hard working raider does." Sorry, I can't ever agree that people not willing to handle the most difficult content of the game should get the best stuff ever. You simply don't deserve it like people who are stepping up to the plate to take down Turn 6-9. At least the best weapons in the game drop only in one place, and where it should be.

[Zarzak]

I personally think that the game focuses too heavily on raiding as the main end game activity. As anyone can tell from trying EX primals, a lot of the gaming crowd doesn't respond well to these kinds of encounters. Give them the right gaming experience and many of them will dedicate just as many hours to crafting, hunting, gathering, building, or mini-gaming as any raider applies to raiding..

There is non raid activities. 100000x the amount of content as raids in fact.

But suggesting you should be able to sit in town rub 2 sticks together and say "ah ha raid loot" is ridiculous. Wish life worked the way the entitled generation thinks it should

Can I drop out of my PhD program and have you pay my expenses for the rest of my life? I don't want to work for things anymore.

That's all ignoring the fact that there are HUNDREDS of games designed for the player who doesn't respond well to these kinds of encounters.

Crafting? Plenty of games for that

Hunting? Whole genre of hunting games

Gathering? Likely the same games as the crafting games. Try survival sims.

Building? ^^

Mini-games? Try the app store


What you saying is "I want a bunch of solo player games.. But instead of playing those games I'd rather take away the 1 genre of games for people who actually like multiplayer RPGs and make it into another single player game."

[Black91CRX]

I promise you'll be happier if you stop caring about other people's shit and just focus on your own stuff.

Pretty much nailed it

[Riepah]

There is non raid activities. 100000x the amount of content as raids in fact.

But suggesting you should be able to sit in town rub 2 sticks together and say "ah ha raid loot" is ridiculous. Wish life worked the way the entitled generation thinks it should



Can I drop out of my PhD program and have you pay my expenses for the rest of my life? I don't want to work for things anymore.

Ah, so raiding is work, and everything else is not work, hmm?

You call others entitled, when you're the one who insists that only raiding should yield the best kind of loot. The very title of this thread speaks volumes about raiding and its enjoyability. If people wouldn't raid without the most massive carrot dangling on that stick, then perhaps raiding just isn't enjoyable enough to be a major part of games to begin with.

[Zarzak]

First off, no you don't. If you just sit idle until someone shouts and then you zone in and run to the mob, at -least- two times out of three you're going to get there just when the mob has finished dying. If you're not actively hunting with others you're not getting jack doodly sh**.

LOL. If you say so. I'll continue to run around doing my animus book kills/leves (or sitting in town watching a movie) and porting wherever someone calls in linkshell and getting my kills. >2000 seals and 2 logs and counting.

Ah, so raiding is work, and everything else is not work, hmm?

You call others entitled, when you're the one who insists that only raiding should yield the best kind of loot. The very title of this thread speaks volumes about raiding and its enjoyability. If people wouldn't raid without the most massive carrot dangling on that stick, then perhaps raiding just isn't enjoyable enough to be a major part of games to begin with.

If people wouldn't raid without the most massive carrot dangling on that stick

So your saying raiding ISN'T the hardest content? Seems a lot of people are having trouble killing them but I haven't heard anyone complaining about being able to kill Brayflox Hard Mode.

Uhh.. The same way 99% people wouldn't do anything? If they stop paying you at work are you going to keep showing up? Or maybe a better comparison. If you learn the guy who mows your neighbors lawn in 30 minutes once a month is making more money than you are for working 40 hours a week. Are you going to keep working where your working? Or are you going to go mow your neighbors lawn for 30 minutes once a month?

[Dwill]

Soldiery gear is not raid gear and never has been. Sands and oils were planned from the beginning to be available through routes other than Coil. Why are you complaining about having two MONTHS where you got to have this gear before everyone else? Or are you one of those strange people who complained that nobody would do Coil because people would just buy all myth gear back in 2.0/2.1?

Except that it is. i110 High Allagan and i110 Geralt Masterworks both have the same iLvL and itemization budget, just different stats with i110 soldiery being better in quite a few cases. The only exception is the i115 weapons who by themselves don't justify the mass influx of sands going out.

[Zarzak]

I promise you'll be happier if you stop caring about other people's shit and just focus on your own stuff.

And all the people demanding they should have access to the same tier of gear as raiders are doing what exactly?

[Makado]

Raiding is awesome. Progressing through the better story line in the game while fighting big bad bosses and pulling off epic wins doesn't seem fun? I don't know what's wrong with people but a large part of MMORPG is the MULTIPLAYER part where you work together with others to ultimately, "beat" the game, or clear the hardest content.

I don't care in the end what someone else enjoys, to each their own, but in the end having high end gear available to anyone just basically allows for people who have no experience or don't want to be an above average player worm their way into groups that they have no business being in, hoping to get carried or just wing their way through something as best they can. Gear in MMORPG in my opinion is a mark of what you have achieved and your level of skill. But in 14 the line gets easily blurred which is unfortunate.

[Velhart]

Ah, so raiding is work, and everything else is not work, hmm?

I think you are confusing working on easy content with working on hard content. It isn't the question of working towards something, it is what you are working on.