Are Hunts Ruining Final Fantasy XIV?

[Baneus]

evolutionary dead end

Describes those muppets that go crazy in chat when they don't get what they want perfectly.

[Giyari]

At the moment there is no real reason to complain about the hunts, because they are not mandatory for anything in the game....yet.

As you all know, people are working on their relic weapon upgrades. I believe Hunts will be involved, and it is at that time, the true struggle begins.

For now, just have fun, I wouldn't spend any of those marks if I were you.

[PixelPirate]

Yes it is a let down. The fact that it made it into the game at all is a mark against Yoshida and his team. If they don't take more significant actions it will linger and fester until most of us simply turn our backs on hunts altogether (some of us already have). It's sad that such a terrible system is causing so much trouble. This patch will be remembered as the "Fail Hunts Patch" and yet a lot of other great content was offered. The disappointment over the hunts is so widespread it is defeating all of the good that was done by the other parts of the patch. Personally, it matters little, but if they are willing to do such a bad job on hunts... it makes me worry about what else they might fail at.

[Xellos2099]

"Hunt" and the reward itself is not the issue, it is some people refuse to work together as a team. A certain well hated fc on my server is one of those group. They will intentionally pull mob even before their own members arrive so other group will not get credit and they are being bloosting about they can do whatever they wanted.

[odintius]

Had hope but turned into what I thought it would turn out sadly.

[SongJoohee]

Yep.

Community is a large part of an MMO and the Hunts have ruined what was previously a pretty good community and turned it into a really quite awful one.

[ShinkuTachi]

Yep.

Community is a large part of an MMO and the Hunts have ruined what was previously a pretty good community and turned it into a really quite awful one.

Pretty much, I used to brag about the community here on Hyperion and encourage people to come on over. Sadly, I can no longer do that.

[Goodberry]

No, Hunts will not ruin this game.

Not playing for fun, but for gear and epeen, ALREADY ruined every MMO game.

I watched all of Yoshi-san excellent presentation of Final Fantasy 14 ARR's design decisions. Right at the end, he said that the most important rule is that a game should be fun to play. I hope he realises what this does REALLY mean - it means that a game shouldn't try to cater to EVERYBODY, including those who don't play for fun and only want to spoil other people's fun. Bad apples should be kicked out, not by banning them but by not catering to them any more. But it's never done, never. That's the big mistake (provided it's unvoluntary). That's why we can't have good things, that's why we can't have fun, that's why playing these games is so often more a pain than a pleasure.

Think about it.

Catering to "hardcore" players, usually "raiders", means providing "hardcore" content.
Hardcore content means high (and higher, and higher) level gear.
High (and higher, and higher) level gear means endless grinds to get it.
When all this is in place, even "non-hardcore" players feel forced to play the game this way, for many possible reasons but at least because after a while if becomes depressing to do (say) a dungeon with level 70 gear on when everyone else is 110... even provided you don't get kicked as soons as the others see you.
And so, no fun, but plenty of grind, boredom, squabbles, ugly scenes.

You should follow your own advice, Yoshi-san.

[Baneus]

Pretty much, I used to brag about the community here on Hyperion and encourage people to come on over. Sadly, I can no longer do that.

To be fair, those terrible people were always there. It's just they had no reason to venture outside mor dhona and interact with other people outside of trolling chat.

[Riepah]

Hunts aren't ruining the game, the people playing it are.