Why is doing things as fast as possible bad?

[Surian]

It takes just one member getting hate with an AoE attack and suddenly they're eating not one attack but ten attacks and there's nothing a healer can do about it anymore (but still get blamed ba-dum-tsh!).

Speedruns are scourge on this game, you're causing an incredible amount of stress on the tank to keep hate and the healer to keep people alive, and what does it realistically gain you? A few minutes saved running in exchange for a tank who is instantly done for the day because he cannot handle it anymore? Sounds great, doesnt it. Before you say otherwise, lets face it, most common speedrun groups are not going to shave off more than a few minutes.

Heck, Speedruns have caused me to stop playing on my Paladin and have made me do dungeons on a DPS class instead. And i'm surely not the only one. So here's one for you, want to solve the problem with there being so few tanks looking to do dungeons with you? Try being nice to them and stop forcing them to speedrun things.

[Malzian]

As a tank, I solve this problem easily. At the beginning of a dungeon... I ask. Ambiguity cleared up, problem solved, no more hate.

[Lyrinn]

As a tank, I solve this problem easily. At the beginning of a dungeon... I ask. Ambiguity cleared up, problem solved, no more hate.

That's great. Now get the other hundreds of speedrunners to do the same and this will no longer be an issue.

[Sadana]

people being dicks about it

You answered your own question.

Honestly, speedruns seem to bring out the worst in people. Who needs that stress?

[Ghishlain]

The act of speedrunning is not bad.

The act of forcing it upon others in your group is the problematic part. When an i90+ tank solo que's and gets paired with say an i60 healer, i70DPS, and i55 DPS in Brayflox and decides to go pull EVERYTHING and dies, and then starts to blame EVERYONE ELSE for the fault, is where the negativity comes from (this is just one of many examples, such as three people queing together and then booting the 4th at the 2nd boss so they can leave scot free is another).

If you're gonna speed run, either
(1) find like minded individuals via PF
(2) analyze the group you are randomly paired up with and if they feel they can handle it, make your intentions known / suggest the idea of doing the Speedrun

[KaiKatzchen]

There is nothing I can add, everyone has pretty much said it. It's not the speed runs but the nasty players that force others to do it, then complain, insult, kick etc when people don't want too or mess up because they are new/not geared well enough - that make it bad. I can't say it any better than how people have already said it.

If players want to do dungeons, great Duty Finder away~!

If players want to speed run/cut scenes etc make a Party Finder group, get like minded people and go for it. But don't go into Duty Finder and force players into it then have a bad attitude about it.

It comes down to lack of communication/not caring most of the time.

[Garlyle]

As a tank, I solve this problem easily. At the beginning of a dungeon... I ask. Ambiguity cleared up, problem solved, no more hate.

You're a good man, sir. (Or good woman, m'am; whichever you prefer)

You're also the exception, unfortunately. When I started healing level 50 content I was extremely uncomfortable with speedrunning and start panicking when a tank would proceed to pull everything with no announcement, especially when I knew straight up it was out of my capacity to heal them through. Hell, I've seen tanks straight up ignore it - I'd say "I can't heal enough to do full speedruns" and... they'd do it anyway, and then finally say something only when they inevitably died.

Speedrunning is something to be opted into, as it requires an extra level of comfort, knowledge, and execution from all involved. Treating it as a default state inevitably causes problems.

[Malzian]

That's great. Now get the other hundreds of speedrunners to do the same and this will no longer be an issue.

You're a good man, sir. (Or good woman, m'am; whichever you prefer)

You're also the exception, unfortunately.

Sir would be the word, and I wish I could do that. I can only speak for what I do, I even offer full and partial pulls for Speed runs. Sadly common courtesy isn't very common. However, if no one was ever the exception then there's no chance of it becoming the norm.

[Staris]

There is nothing wrong with completing tasks as fast as possible.

There is something wrong when players (that are randomly placed together) begin forcing each other to play a specific way.

Exactly, being forced to pull slow is wrong.

[AmyNeudaiz]

Exactly, being forced to pull slow is wrong.

It's not wrong. Sometimes your party members (or you) are not equipped to do speed runs. Not everyone is i90.