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    Malzian's Avatar
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    Kylrin Arresard
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    Bard Lv 90
    As a tank, I solve this problem easily. At the beginning of a dungeon... I ask. Ambiguity cleared up, problem solved, no more hate.
    (5)
    The sum of all hunt arguments over early pullers: http://goo.gl/IFT9IE

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    M'kael Jin
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 3
    Quote Originally Posted by Malzian View Post
    As a tank, I solve this problem easily. At the beginning of a dungeon... I ask. Ambiguity cleared up, problem solved, no more hate.
    That's great. Now get the other hundreds of speedrunners to do the same and this will no longer be an issue.
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    Alvis Yune
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    Adamantoise
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Malzian View Post
    As a tank, I solve this problem easily. At the beginning of a dungeon... I ask. Ambiguity cleared up, problem solved, no more hate.
    You're a good man, sir. (Or good woman, m'am; whichever you prefer)

    You're also the exception, unfortunately. When I started healing level 50 content I was extremely uncomfortable with speedrunning and start panicking when a tank would proceed to pull everything with no announcement, especially when I knew straight up it was out of my capacity to heal them through. Hell, I've seen tanks straight up ignore it - I'd say "I can't heal enough to do full speedruns" and... they'd do it anyway, and then finally say something only when they inevitably died.

    Speedrunning is something to be opted into, as it requires an extra level of comfort, knowledge, and execution from all involved. Treating it as a default state inevitably causes problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    That's great. Now get the other hundreds of speedrunners to do the same and this will no longer be an issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Garlyle View Post
    You're a good man, sir. (Or good woman, m'am; whichever you prefer)

    You're also the exception, unfortunately.
    Sir would be the word, and I wish I could do that. I can only speak for what I do, I even offer full and partial pulls for Speed runs. Sadly common courtesy isn't very common. However, if no one was ever the exception then there's no chance of it becoming the norm.
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    Madotsuki Yamoire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Malzian View Post
    As a tank, I solve this problem easily. At the beginning of a dungeon... I ask. Ambiguity cleared up, problem solved, no more hate.
    I always ask as well when tanking if I'm with randoms (I generally avoid doing expert/HL without friends these days). It's great when people respond... but it's not always the case. I've had plenty of times where I'm just met with silence, so I just make my best judgement call based off what jobs we have and everyone's gear.

    One time had the above scenario happen in Brayflox HM with the DPS being fairly undergeared DRG+SMN, so I did small pull at start. Immediately the healer finds his voice to criticize me for not pulling more. I just asked you not even 30 seconds ago...
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