Why is doing things as fast as possible bad?

[Madotsuki]

As a tank, I solve this problem easily. At the beginning of a dungeon... I ask. Ambiguity cleared up, problem solved, no more hate.

I always ask as well when tanking if I'm with randoms (I generally avoid doing expert/HL without friends these days). It's great when people respond... but it's not always the case. I've had plenty of times where I'm just met with silence, so I just make my best judgement call based off what jobs we have and everyone's gear.

One time had the above scenario happen in Brayflox HM with the DPS being fairly undergeared DRG+SMN, so I did small pull at start. Immediately the healer finds his voice to criticize me for not pulling more. I just asked you not even 30 seconds ago...

[Sadana]

people being dicks about it

You answered your own question.

Honestly, speedruns seem to bring out the worst in people. Who needs that stress?

[Ghishlain]

The act of speedrunning is not bad.

The act of forcing it upon others in your group is the problematic part. When an i90+ tank solo que's and gets paired with say an i60 healer, i70DPS, and i55 DPS in Brayflox and decides to go pull EVERYTHING and dies, and then starts to blame EVERYONE ELSE for the fault, is where the negativity comes from (this is just one of many examples, such as three people queing together and then booting the 4th at the 2nd boss so they can leave scot free is another).

If you're gonna speed run, either
(1) find like minded individuals via PF
(2) analyze the group you are randomly paired up with and if they feel they can handle it, make your intentions known / suggest the idea of doing the Speedrun

[KaiKatzchen]

There is nothing I can add, everyone has pretty much said it. It's not the speed runs but the nasty players that force others to do it, then complain, insult, kick etc when people don't want too or mess up because they are new/not geared well enough - that make it bad. I can't say it any better than how people have already said it.

If players want to do dungeons, great Duty Finder away~!

If players want to speed run/cut scenes etc make a Party Finder group, get like minded people and go for it. But don't go into Duty Finder and force players into it then have a bad attitude about it.

It comes down to lack of communication/not caring most of the time.

[CSX]

Problem is, people don't speak up before hand. It's up to you to say something like, "is it cool to pull a group of mobs?" or "I want to do it normaly guys."

The DF usually puts me in Japanese groups, maybe because I'm on a Japanese server, but they always ask if its ok to pull multiple mobs before starting unless they look at the Party list and see my Client is set to E, in which case they just assume it's ok. That's the difference between our communities that we just never seem to overcome. Like saying something as simple as "B Ok" or whatever your alliance letter is in alliance chat instead of just sitting there. . .not saying a word and willing to just waste time doing nothing or waste more time putting up a ready check.

[Zumi]

Speed running use to be a requirement to get the all the chests and items to upgarde relic in 1.0

[Zarzak]

Honestly I see this pop up as a topic from time to time but on Couerl I've NEVER seen this happen in my roulettes. I always go in as scholar (sue me I'm lazy after the 1000th dungeon and for dungeons scholar is 2 buttons -_-)

I've never seen anyone complain about speed running if it happens. Only time I've seen it NOT happen is if either the tank is THAT badly geared (very rare) or one of the dps is a monk (even more rare.. People seem to have figured out that doing roulettes it's best to play bard or blm). And in both of those cases I've never seen anyone complain that we weren't training because of group makeup making it inefficient/impossible.

[Eekiki]

Honestly I see this pop up as a topic from time to time but on Couerl I've NEVER seen this happen in my roulettes.

In my experience so far, every time I've landed in Brayflox HM in my roulette either I or someone else has asked if the rest of the group is okay with a speed run. I haven't seen anyone have a problem regardless of the answer.

[Eye_Gore]

Honestly I see this pop up as a topic from time to time but on Couerl I've NEVER seen this happen in my roulettes. I always go in as scholar (sue me I'm lazy after the 1000th dungeon and for dungeons scholar is 2 buttons -_-)

Pretty certain servers really don't matter in the DF as they are cross server. I think only the PF is only on your server. Of all the dungeons I have done, I think only 1 had someone from my server in it. I'll try and search out people when they have helped me out to send a thanks to and almost all the time they are on a different server.

Regardless, I think the moral of the story is: ask when the instance starts what people are expecting.

[TeaTimeBear]

Destination will always be the same regardless. As I said before I don't mind a speed run but no matter how fast you do it a grind will still be a grind at the end of the day..