Forcing the Loot Timer Down: Is This Harassment?

[NorthernLadMSP]

Irony 101.

Thanks for your contribution. Taking a full statement, chopping it up to 1/3 of what was originally said, and trying to be witty. Unfortunately, I don't think the witty part actually worked out in your favor.

[Grizzlebeard]

I don't think the witty part actually worked out in your favor.

Your interpretation is clearly unbiased.

That said, I don't give two hoots whether you find it as such because the reality of it is by supporting the, "Entitled" loot-hungry behaviour of the OP you've already displayed the quality of your character.

[KiriA500]

You know what I hate? I hate it when entitled people come in as a certain role, let's just say a healer, expecting everyone else to bow to them so they can get all the tank gear they want. If you want your tank gear, tank the dungeon. It's as simple as that.

I do too! Run content as the class you expect gear for.

I hate this argument so much. No one really needs dungeon drops either, they merely want them. Decent endgame gear can be crafted. Or spend some tomes.

Glamour is huge to a lot of people, and there are plenty of people who are spamming the crap out of dungeons to get the pieces they want.

Bottom line is, if you want to 'need' an item, come as the job.

Well, if you really want to pull that card, nobody really needs anything in this game. The concept of Need before Greed is simply that, Need before Greed. If I'm a Black Mage with an i70 Body piece, and an i80 Body piece drops, I clearly need that to better my character. If I'm a Black Mage with an i100 Body piece, and an i80 Body piece drops, I'm being greedy in simply wanting the piece for the sake of aesthetics.

[Skivvy]

Well, if you really want to pull that card, nobody really needs anything in this game. The concept of Need before Greed is simply that, Need before Greed. If I'm a Black Mage with an i70 Body piece, and an i80 Body piece drops, I clearly need that to better my character. If I'm a Black Mage with an i100 Body piece, and an i80 Body piece drops, I'm being greedy in simply wanting the piece for the sake of aesthetics.

Yes, I would agree that no one really needs anyone one specific piece of gear in this game. One item will not make or break your gear set. But back to my point, sure, an item may be an upgrade for you, but you could simply have a comparable item crafted, or purchased with tomes. So my point still stands. You don't NEED that specific dungeon drop, you just really want it.

To really push this ridiculous situation further, one could argue that by wearing an i70 piece of armor, you're being lazy by not obtaining that crafted/tome item that will most likely be available to you well before RNG favors you with a drop of your liking. But hey, who am I to judge.

[KingOfAbyss]

It was for glamour, so you should have rolled greed on it. You don't NEED to glamour stuff, you WANT to glamour stuff. I hate when people who clearly don't need gear roll need on it anyway.

As some stated: if a WHM wants a PLD gear (like he REALLY needs it), get into PLD and then problem solved.

And yes - if you want to Improve your character, not only from stats, but esthetically, you NEED that item. It's not greedy, it's part of this game, else you would see everyone looking the same.

They might need to rework the Need/Greed options, so that once a main job click need, all others greed gets cancelled and passed. If 2 same jobs Need it, still RNG.

What you do with your gear/items is no one else's business. You all completed the dungeon, each playing your roles. Fair for everyone.

DC sucks bad - my FC mate is the only one that constantly keeps DCing, since patch 2.0 - shrugs

[Delsus]

I'll agree it was a bit of a jerk move by the healer, but, You didn't "Need" the item per-say as it was for glamour, you wanted it, you should have at least said to the healer "Do you need that for an alt job?" and if not rolled need on it. If you get any pickups and any items are locked you should tell them at the start, or ask if it's ok with them but just needing and saying "Pass that" is also a jerk move.

I was trying for ages to get a Garuda's bow for my undergeared BRD for months because of people needing whilst I was on my DRG. My only other option would have been to spam run the new dungeons from 2.2 to gear enough to fight on my BRD.

There are also queue times, last night I queued Syrcus Tower on BRD (because I want to gear my BRD in ST gear) and I had a 15 min wait in prime time, but when I queued on my DRG think 15 mins to get a party, then the run, or just the time for the run, which would you choose? This is where the loot system falls over, you can't need for alt jobs unless you potentially nerf yourself going into content with a suboptimal job (ie one with a potentially much lower item level)

[Nestama]

This kind of situation would never happen if the loot chests didn't drop Filtered Water (amongst other useless crafting items like Cooking Sherry, etc) 80% of the time. Well it probably would, but the desired gear would have a slightly higher chance of appearing because it's not contending against crafting items (we can already buy with GC seals and MB's).

[Ddmk]

That fact he asked if it was for glamour suggests he may have actually needed it for an alt
And no it's not harassment

[Magis]

That fact he asked if it was for glamour suggests he may have actually needed it for an alt
And no it's not harassment

Needing it for an alt is no different than needing it for glamour. If you don't actually need it for the class you are playing, it's a free for all.

[Ddmk]

Needing it for an alt is no different than needing it for glamour. If you don't actually need it for the class you are playing, it's a free for all.

Of course it's different
1. I will use it to look pretty
2.i will use it to get stronger

BIGG DIFFERENCE