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  1. #1
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    Donjo's Avatar
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Lamia
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    Paladin Lv 80

    Forcing the Loot Timer Down: Is This Harassment?

    Heya, got a quick story here.

    I was going through Hullbreaker Isle with a couple of FC buddies in order to spiritbond some Amber Accessories for my Novus. The healer was the extra that the Duty Finder selected for us. The run started off pretty well, but then I started to disconnect. A lot. We managed to push our way through the instance, and we were singing the praises of this healer's patience with my inability to remain in-game for more than five minutes at a time.

    When we finally managed to down the last boss, we opened the chest... and it had the Cuirass of the Divine War, which I immediately Need rolled on for glamour purposes. Given my likelihood of disconnecting again and therefore losing the right to the item, I asked the healer to please roll quickly while my FC friends left the instance to let me get the piece.

    The healer asked me if it was for glamour, and I answered that it was. His reaction was to stand there and force me to wait out the loot timer for the item to automatically fall into my inventory. He did this knowing that I was likely to disconnect during this timer(therefore letting him have the item instead), and I can only consider it to be pure dumb luck that I managed to stay in the game for the duration of the entire timer.

    My question is... is this a reportable offense? Could this be Harassment due to the potential of my disconnecting allowing for him to receive the item despite my Need roll?

    An image of our in-game conversation is below, with names properly hidden.

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    Last edited by Donjo; 07-16-2014 at 02:45 PM.

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    Riepah's Avatar
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    Riepah Redeemer
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    Definitely being a major jerk, but I doubt it falls under harassment.
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    Astralos Bladesong
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    Ummm, isn't that the healer's name above the character?
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    Mahri's Avatar
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    Maral Malaguld
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    Eh. No MMO's harassment policy really covers general dickery. :P I'd let it slide. Jerks will be jerks sometimes.

    Objecting to someone rolling need just for glamour is understandable, but for anyone else in that guy's situation, all you need to do is say something like, "Hey just so you know, I NEED need it, because it's an actual upgrade for me". They might opt to pass, they might not. If not, move along. Loot rolls are one of the least constructive things to get upset about because both the RNG and other players are nothing you can control.


    ...for the record, I believe that glamour can indeed constitute needs. Stat upgrades are transient and inevitably replaced, but getting ahold of something swanky? That'll be a wardrobe option forever!
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    Valkyra Gratia
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    REPORT EVERY LITTLE THING FOR GREAT JUSTICE.
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    Where the horsebirds at?!

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    Levi Sukehiro
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    No he was being a jerk.. but its not report-able because there is no rule made by SE saying you have to Roll right away.
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    Player
    Mahri's Avatar
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    Maral Malaguld
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radaghast View Post
    REPORT EVERY LITTLE THING FOR GREAT JUSTICE.
    In theory, you can report anyone for any reason! Just, y'know, nothing will happen unless the GMs actually agree it was bad, so yeah. :V
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    Player
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astralos View Post
    Ummm, isn't that the healer's name above the character?
    Well, crap. Guess I'd better fix that.
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    Kudj'a Yarik
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    You got to stay on until the timer expired so I'd say that was pretty lucky. I agree that it's a jerk move but I don't think it falls under reportable harrassment.

    Just let it go?
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    lol,the loot system fails ...i always wondered wth SE?

    there is a pld that pressed NEED

    there is a SCH that CANT press need

    why the loot window has to be up until he GREED/PASS (or leave because is the end of the dungeon)....

    if this was 1 pld and 1 war and only 1 pressed need ...ok, maybe the other is checking if its a upgrade or something...

    SE change the loot time to 60s and if some1 press need and no1 cant need it anymore just let the loot gooooooooooooo dammit
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