Wherefore art thou Circle of Scorn

[Aloreal]

This discussion.. it gave spiredman cancer it did.

Just to put it out there, i wont talk about number of potency, but i will talk about emnity bars. You know, those tiny white bars under names on party list, with some numbers to go left-down on the class icon?

yeah those. i mt garuda hard, just to try something out and ot was pali. i had a very good amount of emnity on target, pali had about 10-15% on the emnity bars with sword oath. both of us where ilvl 76-78 at the time.

SoS comes up, pali used it, emnity bar on pali jumped up at about 55-65%.

useless ability isnt it. and thats pali on sword oath

[Fue]

Theres also the fact that you can get two buffed scorns during one FoF.

[monkeytheman]

Actually I play a Warrior.....I don't enjoy paladin as much. But way to assume...you know what they say about assuming right?

Edit: Why would you think I play paladin? It even says my main class is marauder....might want to start reading.

[Fue]

Seriously though looking at pld ability list and what you use day to day. Scorn is the last ability that should be buffed/changed.

[silvach]

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I can see your point and I'm quite of ashamed that other people can't understand what you are saying. It's here, written in the first post. This guy does not neglect the damage ability of Scorn or its superiority to other skills that are not out of GCD. He just says that it quite does not fit to the job as it is small potency DoT without any extra enmity potency multiplier. He wants to discuss how does it FIT to the job not how good / bad the skill is. It's really sad that most of you neglected him and insulted while not really reading his post.

Now back to the topic. Circle is a DoT with a very low potency that can be helpful for the job only at the very beginning of the battle, where you need instant hate. Instead of producing (for 100str,100det,100crit,30weapondmg Pal with shield Oath up): 265 enmity with flash you are able to add another 40 from CoS initial hit. This is a 15% increase in Hate at the very start of the battle. It's quite a lot. However, the skill starts to dims out when used after. However, its initial potency and long cooldown may be a clue for us that this skill was made to be used as enmity generator for the beginning of the fight. It can be used with the flash (as it's off GCD) and there is where it makes a difference. So yeah, it kind of fits to the Job that lacks strong openers for the fight. Its a lacklustre for the job.

Now considering the DoT thing - it has it reasons. If that skill was not a DoT but a one hitter with big potency it would make the AoE hate generation very easy, as too easy, lets not make this game straightforward. Also DoT helps with keeping enmity on creeps that we are currently not focusing on. It may be neglected by the WHM aggro, but it's quite significant when it comes to SCH aggro or dots. Remember that 30 potency with shield oath makes it 45 potency. And that is not bad at all as for AoE DoT.

All in all - this skill is in perfect state. If it would be buffed (either add enmity multiplier or make it one-big-hit) the game would be too easy. I get your point OP and I'm sorry most of the guys keep insulting you for not understanding you. Cheers.

[Sandamar]

I would actually love if it could have an enmity buff aswell

[DeadRiser]

I love this skill. It's so pretty to look at and monsters hate it @.@

I hope we get some more "flashy" job related skills in the future like this one.

[Shref]

free off-GCD aoe dot with an awesome animation. whats not to love??

[MythToken]

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Actually no, he definitely did neglect the damage ability of Scorn and all that. Once proven wrong, he then tried to act like he wasn't talking about its damage at all. And shift the discussion in a way that made him look like he was questioning the DoT, and then the AoE. And then the ability all together.

As for any of his arguments none of them are very good. A paladin with an AoE makes a lot of sense, think consecration in like every other RPG with a paladin. Oh and if you stand in it you take a DoT. hmm sound familiar?

[Madotsuki]

"I'm not crazy, everyone else is!"

I love Circle of Scorn as an off-GCD ability. If they ever want to add further enmity bonuses to it, hey I'll happily take it. Otherwise, it's a solid addition to a PLD's arsenal.