Nevermind, just read Zamii thread and got the answer I needed

Nevermind, just read Zamii thread and got the answer I needed
Last edited by Altimis; 07-17-2014 at 04:12 AM.
actually that thread was intended for people to see the benefit of going below the 491 base accuracy, im still pro-crit build for smn, not part of the "most people" i mentioned earlier.Looking at your thread, the ACC is definitely 99 to 100% so we agree on this, how you compare, no my runs are not just about "what i've noticed", I check all of my runs and I rarely but if ever miss on T9, the entire fight. Don't follow the crowd with 491 as a base. That's not actually the most beneficial to you. However, I will say the belts are in fact, interchangeable. If you feel your not getting as many crits, hop over to evenstar, if your critting alot stay with the DET from HA belt.
that said, im going to stop this here before i rip my hair out trying to explain to you how accuracy affects your overall damage, even just from garuda, and why you shouldn't base your gear on feelings.
This thread became a dick measuring contest real quick. So in fairness of just flopping mine out there let me say I've beaten coils more than you BOOM SHABAM my dick is huge.
Last edited by Xlree; 07-17-2014 at 05:41 AM.



ACC is important of course even for Garuda, but 99.7% chance on Garuda is more or less unmeasurable overall because when you do miss, its quite literally "one in a million". The benefits of going slightly under the ACC cap but staying above 99%, outway the negatives when you compare the amount of DET, you can gain from it post patch 2.3. It's not about feelings. Several people parsering me are using ACT, FFXIV, LogRep, all clearly showing Garuda pretty much never misses, cept and ONLY on the last phase, and rarely even then. The only time Garuda has a chance of missing in general with 483 ACC is usually when you stack for the Thermionic Beam on the last phase. If the boss is directly facing Garuda, then that is when that .03-.05% chance of missing will be reflected.actually that thread was intended for people to see the benefit of going below the 491 base accuracy, im still pro-crit build for smn, not part of the "most people" i mentioned earlier.
that said, im going to stop this here before i rip my hair out trying to explain to you how accuracy affects your overall damage, even just from garuda, and why you shouldn't base your gear on feelings.
As often as its misinterpreted, posting the DPS was not my intention of "e-peen". The truth is however in the numbers. Whether you beat it more times then me, is moot. I am able to pull bigger numbers with my current build then I have ever been able to pull using the max INT builds on these forums.
In your own build you have 417 SS. Any Summoner worth there salt understands SS is the most useless stat you can ever have. You should be using Ruin 2 many times to maximize your DPS. Every Ruin 2 or Bio you cast pretty much negates any SS you have. You literally only take SS, if your forced to do so because its stacked with another beneficial stat. EX: High Allagan Book, High Allagan Belt.
Last edited by Havenchild; 07-17-2014 at 07:38 AM.
Actually, with your accuracy at 483 it's 98.2% hit chance and DET actually is not better than CRT even past 500 since DET doesn't scale with INT and since 2.2 introduce a huge increase of primary stats, it lost some appeal toward CRT. DET is also not valued that high, it is a ~0,17 value toward INT which means you need close to 6 DET to 1 Int.DET has pure sustained numbers, where CRT is RNG based. CRT will always be RNG based and the amount that makes them "more reliable" is over 520 crit. DET however will almost always beat that out over an entire fight post 500 crit. In terms of Determination, 3.45 ish percent is equal to about 1 INT for summoners. If you are literally insisting that, 2 INT (his build) is gonna give you more damage then 35 DETERMINATION(my build) would, I seriously know you have no understanding of this class.
DET is a very powerful stat for Summoners, stronger then Crit not because of *gear circumstances*, but because of the dynamic impact it has on your DoTs which ultimately spikes your damage alot more then crit weights from RNG.
In comparison, I am the highest DPS, on majority of the phases in T9, capping first phase pre Golems as high as 420 DPS with my current build. You will never hit numbers like that with any of these max INT SMN builds on the forums.
Looking at your thread, the ACC is definitely 99.7% to 100% so we agree on this and no my runs are not just about "what i've noticed", I check all of my runs and I rarely but if ever miss on T9, the entire fight. Don't follow the crowd with 491 as a base. That's not actually the most beneficial to you. However, I will say the belts are in fact, interchangeable. If you feel your not getting as many crits, hop over to evenstar, if your critting alot stay with the DET from HA belt. If your a stiffler for .3% ACC then you can still use Evenstar and still do more damage then the build that was posted as the "BIS".
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/N5KP
is the actual BiS. Giving away nearly 2% accuracy and some CRT is not worth for the meager amount DET that you gain, DET that isn't valued as high since it has the possibility of missing.
Last edited by Dwill; 07-17-2014 at 11:16 AM.
From my own scouring of discussion threads here and on reddit, I've yet to see a general "consensus" on what a BiS set would include, but I'll offer up an alternative set if you're looking for something that focuses more so on soldiery than allagan. (Note: I didn't make this set)
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/N5SJ
The appeal of this set is the 490 accuracy, which is closer to the cap than most of the other sets I've seen in previous threads.
Again, this probably isn't BiS, but if it helps someone, then that's all that matters.
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