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  1. #61
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollowed View Post
    Read what I said....? Why do people type before they think, I said it doubles SPELL SPEED, this is the STAT in the game, its called spell speed, it affects your..you know, spell speed.
    The point he was making was that doubling the stat doesn't mean that the speed of your casting is halved. In fact, on my White Mage it works out at a very measly 15% casting speed and recast.

    That's almost negligible when you consider how short the duration is.
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  2. #62
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    Mei Tachibana
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    The point he was making was that doubling the stat doesn't mean that the speed of your casting is halved. In fact, on my White Mage it works out at a very measly 15% casting speed and recast.

    That's almost negligible when you consider how short the duration is.
    All wrong, ignorance is bliss. He was correcting me because he did not read what I said correctly. Also it does well more than 15% boost, please don't pull numbers out of your ass without doing any real math. This ability shaves off over an entire second on my casting time as well as recast, that is a hell of a lot more than 15% and the duration is one of the longest buffing spells in the game, most are only around 10 seconds PoM is 50% longer than that.
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  3. #63
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollowed View Post
    All wrong, ignorance is bliss. He was correcting me because he did not read what I said correctly. Also it does well more than 15% boost, please don't pull numbers out of your ass without doing any real math. This ability shaves off over an entire second on my casting time as well as recast, that is a hell of a lot more than 15% and the duration is one of the longest buffing spells in the game, most are only around 10 seconds PoM is 50% longer than that.
    You fail at reading comprehension. Allow me to reiterate...

    On MY white mage it works out at a 15% increase in speed. It obviously will depend on your base spell speed before you use the skill. The point I was making is that there are diminishing returns for higher spell speeds, so the bonus isn't that great. Point in case:

    Raise cast time before PoM: 7.86s
    Cast time during PoM: 6.68.
    Total time saved is 1.18s

    There you have it, a 15% speed boost. If you're really that stupid not to bother doing the maths for yourself then that's really your problem. Furthermore, unless you have a really low base spell speed, which you probably don't, there is no way in hell you're shaving a whole second off your recast speed. You probably didn't bother to look at the numbers after the decimal point.

    So, to use your own words... don't pull numbers out of your ass without doing any real math.
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  4. #64
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    Nyel Schattenwind
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 47
    In the end, the skill is still disappointing. I would rather take a 30% increase in our casting speed than a 100% increase on our "Spell Speed" stat. That would be less random and better in the end, due to the fact that it's not limited on a stat.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Raise cast time before PoM: 7.86s
    Cast time during PoM: 6.68.
    Total time saved is 1.18s
    Knew you were going to use the spell raise. As I said, ignorance is bliss; also don't start attacking me because I did not attack you, stop being spiteful. That 1.18s saved is saved off most all your spells, if your cures are cast in half the time your raise will NOT get the same treatment, it will get about the same amount of TIME taken off the cast, not %. So as I said again, don't pull numbers out your ass.
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  6. #66
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    Now since you don't seem to like math I figure I would post this before you come up with something to make yourself look foolish, the general consensus is that 10SS = 0.01 off your GCD, meaning that 1SS = 0.001, multiple that by 1000 and you get 1, a full second shaved off your GCD for all spells. As I stated before this is not a %, its a set number which is why your "raise" only gets around a second shaved off its casting time. So assuming you have around 500SS via gear when you use PoM you get almost a full second shaved off its casting and recast time, provided those numbers are 100% accurate.

    There you go, math.
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  7. #67
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    Carnage Incarnate
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    Tonberry
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Grotesque View Post
    15 seconds to push out more whm dps on t9 golems and ghosts. I like the skill now.
    Both WHM and SCH dun ever need to dps ghost to make one ghost and enter p4, sounds like ur melee, caster and ranged dps have issues
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