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    What is better for endgame ? A static with 8 people that complement each other...
    There is no bad class in 8-people groups, and every single static requires a bard. It deals high and sustained damage, with the possibility to buff everyone. Dont be sad because you'll never see a crit/bloodforblood Full thrust with 1300dmg, healers/tanks/casters will love you if you play well.
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    Player Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldea View Post
    What is better for endgame ? A static with 8 people that complement each other...
    There is no bad class in 8-people groups, and every single static requires a bard. It deals high and sustained damage, with the possibility to buff everyone. Dont be sad because you'll never see a crit/bloodforblood Full thrust with 1300dmg, healers/tanks/casters will love you if you play well.
    Never see a 1300? I'm currently critting 1500+ easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri View Post
    Never see a 1300? I'm currently critting 1500+ easily.
    I wanted to say 'As a bard, you'll never hit for 1300', but the number is not really the point (I stopped gearing my DRG @92). It is well known that DRGs have the attack with the highest potency (330), while BRDs Misery End is not even close to that. But their DPS is overall pretty nice (for a support class )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri View Post
    Never see a 1300? I'm currently critting 1500+ easily.
    Looks like the context was that you will never see a B4B Crit Full Thrust as Bard.
    To OP. If others of the same level are doing 1-3x more damage than you, than it must be you and not bards issue. Bard is one of the simplest, most mobile and forgiving DDs. If your damage is that bad as bard, then moving to a more complex class will not do you any good.
    Suggestion: Get to 50 on Bard. Get some decent gear. Practice your skills in endgame. Then decide.
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    Ketsuyame Mirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri View Post
    Never see a 1300? I'm currently critting 1500+ easily.
    Ok, that was completely unrelated to the point the previous poster was trying to make.. Someone needs attention, I see?

    On a serious note. Bards are a support job and they deal respectable damage. You haven't even capped yet so you have NO idea what awaits you on the other side of 50. I have the artemis bow zenith with a couple i100 pcs and I dps around 320-330. While no spike damage like DRG or constant 400+ dps like mnk, BRD's crits are pretty good when you have eagle eye and internal release in the rotation. I've crit for 480-520 on the regular once all my buffs are up.

    Also, ppl forgot but BRD was NERFED horribly about 7-8 mos ago. Just check the forums. There were ppl moaning about how killer Misery's End was and BRD's overall high dps. Other DPS were NOT happy about it considering we were a "support" class.

    But just hang in there, get some myth gear & a artemis, wave or Rosenbogen.. You'll be very pleased with the dps. And like everyone is saying. For 8 man raids, a bard is a healer's bff!
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    Last edited by Ketsuyame; 07-17-2014 at 02:21 AM.

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    Player Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketsuyame View Post
    Ok, that was completely unrelated to the point the previous poster was trying to make.. Someone needs attention, I see?

    On a serious note. Bards are a support group and they deal respectable damage. You haven't even capped yet so you have NO idea what awaits you on the other side of 50. I have the artemis bow zenith with a couple i100 pcs and I dps around 320-330. While no spike damage like DRG or constant 400+ dps like mnk, BRD's crits are pretty good when you have eagle eye and internal release in the rotation. I've crit for 480-520 on the regular once all my buffs are up. Also, ppl forgot but BRD was NERFED horribly about 7-8 mos ago.
    Right, the post has been addressed already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri View Post
    Right, the post has been addressed already.
    And more people add thier insight on it.. You know how many threads there are with pages of people who say the same thing? Get over yourself.
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    Player Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketsuyame View Post
    And more people add thier insight on it.. You know how many threads there are with pages of people who say the same thing? Get over yourself.
    What the hell's your problem lady? Maybe it's time for you to stop posting and go outside or maybe it's that time...
    In all seriousness though, the post has been addressed already. Quit beating a dead horse like a necrophiliac.
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    Last edited by Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri; 07-17-2014 at 11:12 AM.

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    Lev Decimo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri View Post
    Quit beating a dead horse like a necrphiliac.
    This got me. ^^

    But to the OP they are both great. DRG has lower DPS, but their burst is nice. If your looking to see number 1000+ go DRG they also dont have that bad of a ramp up. MNK is my main and I love it. The high sustain is wonderful in coil. although MNKs ramp up is about 9 gcds (I dont count pb as your going to see it once per fight usually) it can take some getting used to and seeing -greased lightning III pop is always frustrating. In the end both classes are a lot of fun and you'll play better and have more on the class you like more give them both an equal chance.
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