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    Rhalgar's Avatar
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    Rhalgar Helstrom
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    Bard and Blm DPS

    So I was doing some testing last night and it kind of made me wonder if i was doing something wrong. I have an i90 Bard with all myth, zenith bow, and weathered soldiery ring. I clocked in on him at about 250. But my brother who is a SMN was doing around 200-220 so I'm pretty sure that dot's got misses. What should a Bard with my setup be pushing out? How much does a Bard dot's contribute to the total? I also have an i97 BLM that put out 360. He is equipped with all weather gear, zenith staff and myth ring. Again i don't think the dot's were added in but I just need to know if this sounds right or I need a little improvement or a lot of improvement. About what kind of numbers should i be aiming for with the gear I have. Thanks for your help.
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    It highly depends on the fight, are you 'turret-dps' or do you have to move a lot ? Was there a DRG in your group, using Disembowel on your target ? Was Foe Requiem on ?

    Also, dont forget to take into account the Egi you're using when parsing a SMN.

    Try to parse yourself on dummies, then give us your numbers. If your rotation is correct, aim for 250-290 for i90, depending on your class.
    Then, of course, mechanics will lower your dps, but eh, that's where 'knowing fights' and 'knowing your class' matters.
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    That was on the training dummies in Coerthas. His numbers did include his egi so I'm really just trying to figure out where I stand and see if I need improvement or what needs to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhalgar View Post
    That was on the training dummies in Coerthas. His numbers did include his egi so I'm really just trying to figure out where I stand and see if I need improvement or what needs to happen.
    The level 50 dummies give skewed bard dps because of misery's end.
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    The level 50 dummies give skewed bard dps because of misery's end.
    Whichever BRD that uses Misery's end (same goes to things like Mercy Stroke for a WAR) should just go stand by a firing squad.
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    Tua Teatime
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    At bard i90 I did a little over 300 on a dummy, with no party buffs, food or consumables used. 305-315 approximately. If that helps.
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    Sakamoto Faucillien
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tua View Post
    At bard i90 I did a little over 300 on a dummy, with no party buffs, food or consumables used. 305-315 approximately. If that helps.
    When you said it's a little over 300 on a dummy, do you include Flaming Arrow and Rain of Death DOT as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GueRakun View Post
    When you said it's a little over 300 on a dummy, do you include Flaming Arrow and Rain of Death DOT as well?
    Rain of Death doesn't have a dot component. >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Rain of Death doesn't have a dot component. >_>
    Oh my god I am sorry I meant Rain of Death has an AOE, as is Flaming. But only Flaming has DOT.
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    Parsers do include dots at this point Rhalgar. The very first few did not, but that issue was fixed long ago. I don't remember exactly what my dps was at i90 sadly, so I can't be a ton of help there. I think if you can hold 250ish in a fight you'll be fine for your ilvl content, your friends dps sounds like it might be a bit low.
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