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  1. #21
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    Arkine's Avatar
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    Arkine Vanrien
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    This would bother me if I actually wanted anything from that fight.

    Ah, as long as this kind of work around doesn't happen in anything worth while then have at it. lol
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  2. #22
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    Kyros's Avatar
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    Odiron Dulmare
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 60
    As a Main tank and someone who's done both method, this helps tremendously in clearing the content.

    Simply put, the biggest part of the fight is the add phase. Having 2 whole extra DPS helps tremendously here.

    BTW, there's nothing stopping you from going as an OT with DPS in mind. Both PLD and WAR can put up some good numbers, and they can tank it in a pinch. We've had Titan die at the end in some runs and I just took it from there, eating the healing penalty until we cleared.
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  3. #23
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    DeadRiser's Avatar
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    Kipp Kaida
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by joshsecret View Post
    just the though of tanks having to wait around for people wanting to do Ramuh with them is priceless.
    much love to my tank friends, but jesus do you all have the easiest time getting into a run. welcome to the 99%!
    Rude!

    Sacurrrrr-ity! Saaaacur-ity!

    You chose to play what "99%" of the community plays, your choice. People are denying your friend totally from doing this fight because of a broken mechanic :/ that's not his fault or choice.
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  4. #24
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    Nekodar's Avatar
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    Nyaano Nohea
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    I'm just glad it's another Extreme fight that doesn't have tank swapping. Good lord, so sick of that "mechanic."
    Because tank swapping mechanics were soooo prevalent... oh wait. Only a few fights have it, and that was a result of "off-tanks" complaining they had nothing to do!

    As for the topic at hand, since Titan-Egi is a tank-pet, I don't see this as any different than 1-healer methods, 1-tank methods or 3-healer methods for various stuff.
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  5. #25
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    Cyrus-Wallace's Avatar
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    Lucille Wallace
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I'm the tankbot of my FC and static. Even in Ramuh (we got our "legit" win there before this method), they make me tank it with Titan. So, in the end, you only get rid of ONE mechanic, which is the tank swapping and probably the stack building for that thunder attack. The rest of the fight still requires some coordination, because of the tether, the charm, the adds, the thunder stacks... so, no biggie.
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  6. #26
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    Fue's Avatar
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    Washed Up
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    Phoenix
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    Monk Lv 80
    Well atleast theres a reason to use my summoner now.
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  7. #27
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    Amelia_Pond_Behemoth's Avatar
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    Violet Baudelaire
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    Goblin
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    Dark Knight Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Eggnook24 View Post
    Lolgld that's funny
    GLD doesn't exist in this game.
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  8. #28
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    Sileas Goode
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    Hyperion
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    Culinarian Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    Because tank swapping mechanics were soooo prevalent... oh wait. Only a few fights have it, and that was a result of "off-tanks" complaining they had nothing to do!
    Pretty sure tank swaps 'happened' because people keep trying to 5+ dps in fights when SE wants people to bring 2 tanks for 8 mans (Titan HM). They added 3 extremes, 2 of them were tank swaps. They added ultima HM and that was a tank swap. They added moogle and levi extreme and one of them was a tank swap. They added ramuh ex and that has a tank swap until players decide to tank it with egis. Out of 7 trials added, 4 of them are tank swaps intended. Even t6 has a tank swap (we go 1 tank now) and my static used to try swapping for ravensbeak on t9. I'm not sure if t9 was intended to be a tank swap fight but that's 1 out of 4 2nd coil that has tank swap mechanic. I would say that warrants more than a sarcastic remark on the amount of tank swaps in these 8mans. Additionally, relic hydra had a cleave mechanic that used to require 2 tanks to take the damage together. I haven't seen that in any other fights in this game. Really odd to have one mechanic appear in almost half the fights but only 1 other mechanic appear once.

    Anyway, my problem is the weapon drops. Tanks can easily switch to dps but the weapons do not drop all the time while the accs does. I can see the ring drops be put on lock rolls in PF groups but I'm not convinced that the weapon locks will be the norm of PFs. Since these parties will have no tanks, if a tank weapon drops, it will most likely be put on FFA rolls. A tank that switches to a dps for this fight and actually needs the weapons as an upgrade will have a really really low chance of getting his weapon in most of these PF parties.
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  9. #29
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    Gramul's Avatar
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    Eisen Gramul
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    Hyperion
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    I find it less odd and more amusing that people are complaining that there is something where the 'holy trinity' can be avoided. Maybe it was just my time in CoH. *shrugs*
    They had to totally rework most of the jobs and fighting system so that they could shoehorn each class/job into one of three roles, removing the possibility of a straight support class and hybrid classes.

    If this mechanic actively works against itself, what was the point of hyper-simplifying it at all?
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  10. #30
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    Kio Kurokami
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    Tonberry
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    I find it less odd and more amusing that people are complaining that there is something where the 'holy trinity' can be avoided. Maybe it was just my time in CoH. *shrugs*
    You must be remembering things differently than me because as a non-empathy Defender I always got tells asking "R U Healer?"
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